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Inheriting a farm.

  • 04-11-2016 1:19pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hi, not sure if this has been put in before. My dad passed away in March and I've been left the farm. It's planted. I've been told I need to go and do an agri course, I thought as the son of a farmer I didn't. Does anyone know what is the correct course I need to do? Is there anything else from a legal point I need to get in order. Everything is still with the solicitor at the moment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    You don't have to do a course but you should do a course unless you want to get a hefty inheritance tax bill.

    Being the son of a farmer doesn't come into it. If it did there would be nobody in our agri colleges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    His dad passed away so he has no tax to pay. Different when the person signing over the farm is still alive. There is a limit though circa 2 million value and the farm can't be sold for 5 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    His dad passed away so he has no tax to pay. Different when the person signing over the farm is still alive. There is a limit though circa 2 million value and the farm can't be sold for 5 years.
    Agricultural relief
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/cat/leaflets/cat5.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Revenue have lots of information on their website. Here is a link that you may find helpful. http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/cat/leaflets/cat5.html#section2
    Also ensure that you talk to an accountant who has knowledge of the agri sector, don't assume that your solicitor has all the answers or visa versa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    If you don't qualify for agriculture relief, you will more than likely qualify for business relief.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    I think - and I stand to be corrected here.
    - forestry premiums are less for non farmers
    - forestry premiums are paid for a shorter duration to non farmers (20yrs vs 15yrs)

    Given the farm is planted - you may need to do a course to become a farmer to continue to receive the farmer level of forestry premiums...

    Now, it's a while since I looked at this, and given the premium decision had been made based on your late father, maybe it's a non issue.

    Might be something worth investigating...

    Best of luck, and condolences about your da.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Capital acquisition Tax (CAT) is applicable on the land .

    This can be reduced with Agri relief or business relief



    Stamp duty is 0% on inheritance. 1% on farm land is passed before death from a family member .(2% if not a family member) This 1% can be saved with a green cert


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    If the government, and more to the point its advisors and lobyists, was interested in getting a younger generation into farming then they could do a whole lot worse then have the transfer of the asset treated the same whether the gifter is dead or alive

    One less excuse for auld lads to hold onto the land till the bitter end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Capital acquisition Tax (CAT) is applicable on the land .

    This can be reduced with Agri relief or business relief



    Stamp duty is 0% on inheritance. 1% on farm land is passed before death from a family member .(2% if not a family member) This 1% can be saved with a green cert

    Lakill, can you explain what the maximum value of land is, that can be inherited without having to pay any CAT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Lakill, can you explain what the maximum value of land is, that can be inherited without having to pay any CAT?


    €320,000 Theshold from Parent
    €320,000 /10% = €3.2M

    plus the small annual €1,270 credit :D but whats that between friend if you have gotten €3.2m


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    So you can inherit a farm from your parent worth €3.2million without paying any Capital Acquisition Tax? Just to clarify!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    So you can inherit a farm from your parent worth €3.2million without paying any Capital Acquisition Tax? Just to clarify!!!!

    with agricultural relief and a green cert :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    with agricultural relief and a green cert :rolleyes:

    What about Business Relief for those that don't have the green cert?
    In the case of inheritance on the death of a parent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    What about Business Relief for those that don't have the green cert?
    In the case of inheritance on the death of a parent.

    2 separate issues

    No stamp duty on inheritance , but before death its 1% stamp duty from a family member. (0% if you have green cert)


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