How to get out from Emergency Tax???

Leon Cork · 03-11-2016 4:38pm #1

Hello, I worked in a restaurant here in Cork, they didn't register me at the tax office, so I worked there but actually never registered me at any place. I worked there only 2 months and 4 days a week, so it's not a big deal. I didn't know that they didn't register me, so I went to the tax office to get a pps number saying that I was working in that restaurant. Meanwhile I found another job, where everything is fine, it's through an agency so all is good. The problem now is that I'm in emergency tax, since I should give the tax office the P45 of my previous job (they at the restaurant are never going to give me that). What shall I do to get out from Emergency Tax if I'm not going to have that P45? It's 2 months by now, and I'm getting so little money just to survive because of this, and I really need to be fully paid. Please can you tell me how to do? Thank you.

intheclouds · 03-11-2016 4:39pm

Phone the Revenue and they will sort it out.

brianomc · 03-11-2016 4:42pm

Have you worked in Ireland before the previous job? If not then you will need to fill out a form "12A"'so that Revenue know what tax credits you are entitled to.

Do you have a PPS number yourself? If not you need to sort that first.

There's nothing stopping the restaurant giving you a P45 unless you were paid cash in hand. Did they ever give you a payslip?

Mrs OBumble · 03-11-2016 5:04pm

brianomc wrote: »

Have you worked in Ireland before the previous job? If not then you will need to fill out a form "12A"'so that Revenue know what tax credits you are entitled to

Its changed. No more 12a.

Now the OP has to register on Revenue'streams my account system

Start here: https://www.ros.ie/myaccount-web/register.html

Leon Cork · 03-11-2016 5:20pm

That was my first job... I have been naive, they always paid me cash in hand, no payslip. The revenue sent me the pps number. And my only mistake was to tell the tax office that I was working in that restaurant, then now they want the P45 and I don't know how to get out from this situation since I don't have any documentation.

intheclouds · 03-11-2016 5:22pm

Leon Cork wrote: »

That was my first job... I have been naive, they always paid me cash in hand, no payslip. The revenue sent me the pps number. And my only mistake was to tell the tax office that I was working in that restaurant, then now they want the P45 and I don't know how to get out from this situation since I don't have any documentation.

Yeah just tell the revenue (on the phone) that the restaurant wont give you the p45.

Its really not a big deal.

davo10 · 03-11-2016 5:29pm

Op, the benefit of cash in hand for casual labour is that you were not taxed on it, you therefore got to spend all the money you earned. Effectively you are now saying that you want to pay tax/deductions on that income. You would have to hand back some of that cash to Revenue if you want them the employer to declare what they paid you. It will be you who will be responcible for paying those deductions on your wage, not your employer so becareful what you wish for. You don't need a P45 from your employer, you can apply to revenue, any monies deducted now in emergency tax will be refunded to you when your credits are aligned.

brianomc · 03-11-2016 6:48pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Its changed. No more 12a.

Now the OP has to register on Revenue'streams my account system

Start here: https://www.ros.ie/myaccount-web/register.html

I should probably stop giving people that form so. Cheers

Leon Cork · 03-11-2016 8:52pm

Hi davo10, thank you for your answer. Could you explain to me better what do you mean when you say: "you can apply to revenue, any monies deducted now in emergency tax will be refunded to you when your credits are aligned."? Please it's really important for me to know how and when I can finally to be out of the emergency tax, get my money back, and start taking normal wage... thank you, I hope in an answer soon, thank you again.

toadfly · 04-11-2016 8:08am

Log on to revenue.ie, register for PAYE anytime, apply for your tax credits. You will also need to get your current employers PAYE reference. Once all that is sorted, you will be refunded your overpaid tax in your wages.

Leon Cork · 04-11-2016 9:01am

Thank you, I'm registered on PAYE anytime now, shall I ask to my employer their reference number? what I must do? And what about the previous job? It doesn't matter anymore if they don't give me the P45?

toadfly · 04-11-2016 11:50am

Leon Cork wrote: »

Thank you, I'm registered on PAYE anytime now, shall I ask to my employer their reference number? what I must do? And what about the previous job? It doesn't matter anymore if they don't give me the P45?

Ask your employer for their PAYE ref and register yourself as their employee with Revenue.

Don't know if you can do anything about previous job as you obviously weren't paying tax, I would think its too late for that as it was a cash in hand job. You are aware if you push to get that employment registered you will owe tax?

Leon Cork · 04-11-2016 11:54am

I don't really care about my previous job. If I get this PAYE ref. from my current employer and I go to the tax office, will I be out of emergency tax? What else I need to give them? Thank you!

Mrs OBumble · 04-11-2016 12:01pm

davo10 wrote: »

Op, the benefit of cash in hand for casual labour is that you were not taxed on it, you therefore got to spend all the money you earned. Effectively you are now saying that you want to pay tax/deductions on that income. You would have to hand back some of that cash to Revenue if you want them the employer to declare what they paid you. It will be you who will be responcible for paying those deductions on your wage, not your employer so becareful what you wish for..

That's true, but I'm thinking that the OP is likely to have been low paid that it wouldn't amount to much anyway.

How to get out from Emergency Tax???

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