Let's be careful out there!

trout

Doesn't say much about the watch itself ... but 24K seems a bit pricey, no?

"A man was robbed of his £24,000 Rolex watch at a private members’ club popular with the rich and famous.

The 31-year-old was threatened and assaulted before the 24 carat gold watch was snatched from his wrist at Shoreditch House, Scotland Yard said."

linkeh -> http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rolex-raider-robs-man-of-24000-watch-at-private-club-in-uk-762341.html

Ouch!

Wibbs

24 grand isn't so crazy when you get to that level of upper middle range.

trout

Yes, it is crazy.

Even if I had 24 grand (and i don't) ... it would want to be a LOT of watch for 24K

My most favourite watch is the wristwatch of pa trout, which hardly works and is worth precisely fupp, fupp, all

Oafley Jones

Wibbs wrote: »

24 grand isn't so crazy when you get to that level of upper middle range.

Isn't it basically the entry level price for a respectable top three of AP, PP and VC?

To the very very well heeled who are into watches £20k ish mightn't be out of the ordinary.

trout

Would your average criminal type be able to spot a 24K watch at a glance?

Wibbs

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Isn't it basically the entry level price for a respectable top three of AP, PP and VC?

Not far off alright. I remember reading an online article about "affordable" luxury watches and the notion of affordable was under twenty grand American.

For me the luxury watch stuff has reached peak madness and that madness can also be found increasingly in the mid, even low end range. When you read old price lists it makes for interesting reading. EG steel cased Rolexes for example were yes a "good watch", a lifetime watch for an average man, they were not luxury watches and were priced accordingly at the same levels as similar watches from Omega, Longines etc. Of course they were because they were all in direct competition as all independent companies. Think about it this way US servicemen were buying Rolexes at PX outlets. How many military guys are splashing out the kinda prices they're charging today? Never mind that the Rolex Sub and Omega Seamaster were bought by the British government to issue to their divers. Yes they got bulk discounts of course, but they were still seen as "reasonably priced". Omega speedies are another example of massive price hikes down the years. Even Pateks while the top end(if someone was interested enough to be in the know. Most werent so they were a smalll enough outfit) their mass produced models were still mostly within reach. My dad had one and he wasn't a millionaire. They were twice the price of others, but not ten times and more the price of other marques. Among the current crop of marques Longines prices would be roughly similar to "old style" prices, if you account for currency and wages and costs of living. Hamilton ditto and the various German companies.

trout wrote: »

Would your average criminal type be able to spot a 24K watch at a glance?

Given how high value these things are getting even among ordinary Joe collectors at least some criminals are going to be in the know alright. Particularly with the more obvious names like Rolex, Hublot, Omega and the like. As one commentator noted regarding the question do women notice watches, his conclusion was other than Rolex which is known by all, that only gold diggers and ladies of the night seem to notice. I would suspect criminals could be added to that list.

johnthemull

trout wrote: »

Would your average criminal type be able to spot a 24K watch at a glance?

Gold is a dead giveaway.
Stay safe, stay stainless:)

gerfmurphy

On this note does anyone worry for their safety/security when wearing their prized possession

Wibbs

Pretty much never TBH GM. Most days I would tend to daily wear my early quartz which most wouldn't look twice at and if they did many would recoil in horror. About my most treasured watch a Zenith from the early 1930's(that is huge on my wrists) I've worn all over the place in all sorts of environments and countries. It's actually one of the few watches I have that does get attention from "civilians" and has all the years I've worn it. Even from the ladies. :eek: :pac: Criminals no. Or I haven't noticed. In some ways most of my stuff has a built in deterrent or kinda insurance, as it's mostly odd, or actually rare(if not particularly valuable), so if they were stolen they might prove hard to move on in any sorta public arena without being likely spotted.

sparrowcar

gerfmurphy wrote: »

On this note does anyone worry for their safety/security when wearing their prized possession

I covered my speedy up in certain places and time of day. I've only had to do to that maybe 2 times since I have it. I reckon just be clever, no different than flashing your wallet with cash on it, just common sense I suppose.

A gold Rolex is completely different though..that type of "noticeable" watch I would be much more careful about.

Clareman

I was going on a stag a few weeks ago and the Rolex was left at home, I'm going to the All Blacks game in a few weeks and it'll be left at home then as well. When the missus asked what the point in having a good watch and not wearing was I pointed out that I won't park my car just about anywhere so why risk the watch

gerfmurphy

I definitly worry a bit. Was in a pool hall recently and a gang of big eastern european guys with trackies and gold chain beside me drinking cans kinda worried me.
Taking a shot my friend says thats a noticably nice watch you wearing. At that I was thinking probably best not to be wearing it here.
First real time I felt that way in Ireland.

sparrowcar

gerfmurphy wrote: »

I definitly worry a bit. Was in a pool hall recently and a gang of big eastern european guys with trackies and gold chain beside me drinking cans kinda worried me.
Taking a shot my friend says thats a noticably nice watch you wearing. At that I was thinking probably best not to be wearing it here.
First real time I felt that way in Ireland.

And you were right too. That would be an example of where I would cover it up or take it off.

Clareman

That reminds me of a time years ago when I worked in a pub and a guy said to me "nice watch bud, how much do you want for it?" he wasn't taking no for an answer and he pointed out that he was going home with that watch whether he bought it or took it, ended up selling it to him for twice what it was worth, really p1ssed of my gf at the time as well cause she bought it for me

blue5000

Clareman wrote: »

That reminds me of a time years ago when I worked in a pub and a guy said to me "nice watch bud, how much do you want for it?" he wasn't taking no for an answer and he pointed out that he was going home with that watch whether he bought it or took it, ended up selling it to him for twice what it was worth, really p1ssed of my gf at the time as well cause she bought it for me

There are some benefits to living out in the shticks, even with poor broadband etc. Damasko generally slips beneath the radar around here, but I'd be slow to go walking around Dublin with a gold plated watch of any sort.

Okon

It's a tough world out there, fortunately my Citizen Eco-Drive is probably safe at the swimming pool...

Bluefoam

Just to let you know, Shorditch House isn't necessarily a posh members club... It's members are mostly people from the entertainment industry... There's lots of wealthy people there, but there's plenty of regular people as well... TAG's would be the watch I've noticed most in there.... 'The Suits' were removed a few years ago & had there membership revoked...

Unusual to hear of something like this happening there, it's a very friendly crowd.

The only watch I cover up is my Monaco... one of my friends is obsessed with it & tries to lick it... Yes, he tries to lick it! I try not to wear it around him.

Deep Thought

I wear the speedy most days in work.

If I am heading to the pub and into town I will slip on the Suunto or my Seiko Diver.

Homer

It's not something I've ever been particularly worried about but maybe something I should put more thought into.. I was actually in the Soho house in Chicago over the weekend (it's part of the same group who own the shoreditch property) for the Ireland vs All Blacks game. I had my Panerai 560 on for the weekend and was with a group of guys, most of whom were wearing reasonably expensive watches.. couple of Rolex and a Chopard in the small group I was with.

The Friday of last weekend saw the victory parade in the city for the cubs who won the world series for the first time in 108 years. There was over 5 million people in the city (population of 2,000,000 normally) making it the 7th largest gathering of human beings in history!! I'm sure things like that bring a fair share of undesirables into the city looking to capitalise and prey on drunk and vulnerable people..

As they used to say on Hill Street Blues... "Hey, let's be careful out there."

Etc

Wibbs wrote: »

As one commentator noted regarding the question do women notice watches, his conclusion was other than Rolex which is known by all, that only gold diggers and ladies of the night seem to notice. I would suspect criminals could be added to that list.

What a load of misogynistic rubbish. Cork sniffing at its finest. Are you're agreeing that women have no idea or appreciation about what's on someone's wrist ? Grow up !

Wibbs

Etc wrote: »

What a load of misogynistic rubbish. Cork sniffing at its finest. You obviously aren't mixing with the right women.

Calm the old ire down there Ted, I did say "one commentator". I know women, indeed there are a few who post here(which is actually quite novel compared to other watch forums I'm a member of), who are into watches, but generally speaking most people aren't that into watches, but it would be a tad inaccurate to suggest that wristwatches, when it gets down to the hobby/minutiae level, are not a far more male demographic. They're one of the few pieces of jewellery and accessorising that is considered good, if not desirable for men and mostly by other men.

*EDIT*(well considering you edited your ire upwards) The watch company's marketeers respond to that difference in quite a few obvious ways. EG more jewelled cases for the "ladies" offerings and one major difference, the movements in watches aimed at women are almost entirely quartz movements. Mechanicals rarely feature. Unlike in the men's market where mechanical has been promoted as more "authentic", even in the face of higher costs, far less accuracy and higher costs of ownership. The women's market it seems are not so easily swayed by such things and instead go for accuracy and ease of use and lower cost of ownership of quartz. Something I would find much agreement with(over half my collection are battery driven).

Etc

its was a poor ill thought out post regardless of however many commentators. Suggest you remove it.

Etc

Wibbs wrote: »

Calm the old ire down there Ted, I did say "one commentator". I know women, indeed there are a few who post here(which is actually quite novel compared to other watch forums I'm a member of), who are into watches, but generally speaking most people aren't that into watches, but it would be a tad inaccurate to suggest that wristwatches, when it gets down to the hobby/minutiae level, are not a far more male demographic. They're one of the few pieces of jewellery and accessorising that is considered good, if not desirable for men and mostly by other men.

*EDIT*(well considering you edited your ire upwards) The watch company's marketeers respond to that difference in quite a few obvious ways. EG more jewelled cases for the "ladies" offerings and one major difference, the movements in watches aimed at women are almost entirely quartz movements. Mechanicals rarely feature. Unlike in the men's market where mechanical has been promoted as more "authentic", even in the face of higher costs, far less accuracy and higher costs of ownership. The women's market it seems are not so easily swayed by such things and instead go for accuracy and ease of use and lower cost of ownership of quartz. Something I would find much agreement with(over half my collection are battery driven).

I edited to better reflect my opinion. By adding to the commentators opinion, the implication was hookers and slappers and crims will notice a good watch.

anewme

Etc wrote: »

its was a poor ill thought out post regardless of however many commentators. Suggest you remove it.

Agreed.

As a woman who is into watches and would always notice what watch a man is wearing, I winced at the comment and the implication.

While I don't think it was meant maliciously, it reads as disrespectful and a bit vulgar.

If someone made that comment in my company socially, I would certainly challenge them on it.

sparrowcar

anewme wrote: »

Agreed.

As a woman who is into watches and would always notice what watch a man is wearing, I winced at the comment and the implication.

While I don't think it was meant maliciously, it reads as disrespectful and a bit vulgar.

If someone made that comment in my company socially, I would certainly challenge them on it.

You've had a sheltered life if a silly comment like that made you wince.

The comment was a poor way of describing a fact that generally women have little interest/knowledge in wrist watches. It does not make women inferior to men in any way before anyone feels victimised, it's just a fact. Similar to the way most men would have little
Knowledge/interest in bracelets/jewellery.

anewme

sparrowcar wrote: »

You've had a sheltered life if a silly comment like that made you wince.

The comment was a poor way of describing a fact that generally women have little interest/knowledge in wrist watches. It does not make women inferior to men in any way before anyone feels victimised, it's just a fact. Similar to the way most men would have little
Knowledge/interest in bracelets/jewellery.

I haven't led a sheltered life in any away.

Don't get carried away, no one is feeling victimised or inferior or upset.

Comment adds nothing of value. as I've said, I don't think it was malicious, but did not need to be put like that. I would describe it as a bit of a faux pas.

Homer

Ok enough with the moaning and show us your watches as you claim to be into them! Let's get this thread back on topic..