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Scrappage with car not driving

  • 01-11-2016 7:48pm
    #1
    Moreilly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭


    Anybody know the deal with getting scrappage for a car that needs a bit of work ( about 500 euro worth), not drivable at the moment as the brakes dont work, all else is ok though (engine, ect..) . Car has a valid NCT & Tax.


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  • #2
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Some will take it in without running car, depends on the dealer.


  • #3
    Isambard
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    ask several dealers, they want to sell cars and scrappage isn't an official scheme, more a sales ploy.


  • #4
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Isambard wrote: »
    ask several dealers, they want to sell cars and scrappage isn't an official scheme, more a sales ploy.

    Some might even over the deal without taking the car;)


  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Some might even over the deal without taking the car;)

    ...do tell: I have an 05 Saab 9-5 dead in my driveway that I would like to extract some value our of. ....

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...do tell: I have an 05 Saab 9-5 dead in my driveway that I would like to extract some value our of. ....

    It'll cost them money to dispose of a non running car and since the "scrappage" deal is just a marketing gimic they should be able to offer without a car to "scrap".


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  • #7
    9935452
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Moreilly wrote: »
    Anybody know the deal with getting scrappage for a car that needs a bit of work ( about 500 euro worth), not drivable at the moment as the brakes dont work, all else is ok though (engine, ect..) . Car has a valid NCT & Tax.

    Lok at the terms and conditions of the scrappage scheme and talk to the dealers involved. I reckon they will take it as it has an nct and tax.

    A few years backa neighbours car was stolen and found burnt out,
    The insurance paid out on the car.
    He asked to keep the shell of the car. He then used the burnt out shell for the scrappage scheme, He satisfied all the criteria for the scrappage deal, owned the car for 6 months, had a valid nct , was taxed


  • #8
    Dravokivich
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    Wait... am I misunderstanding something? If a car is traded in to be "scrapped," why does it matter if it's not running?


  • #9
    MojoMaker
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    Because it's not actually scrapped, it's sold off to mates in the trade for a few euros to offset some of the discounting going on at the front end of the deal.

    It's a marketing term nothing more.


  • #10
    wally79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭wally79


    Wife' 00-fiesta needed over €1k of work to pass the NCT and was accepted under scrappage deal with Hyundai

    Now I know that €1k is retail price but still needed a good bit of work for a car which wasn't worth a lot even with NCT


  • #11
    Dravokivich
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    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Because it's not actually scrapped, it's sold off to mates in the trade for a few euros to offset some of the discounting going on at the front end of the deal.

    It's a marketing term nothing more.

    So can they really call it scrappage, when there's no scrapping? I'd of assumed the destruction of the vehicle being traded in.


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  • #12
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    So can they really call it scrappage, when there's no scrapping? I'd of assumed the destruction of the vehicle being traded in.

    They can do what they like because as has been said several times it is nothing more than a marketing ploy to get punters thinking they are getting a better deal.

    It's the same as offering €5k trade-in on a car worth €3k on full asking price where they would probably discount €2.5k for a cash sale.


  • #13
    Dravokivich
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    Doesn't matter whether or not its a marketing ploy. I understand the whole premise is a trade in as mentioned in my post earlier, but to call it "scrappage," I'd expect destruction of the vehicle after trading in.


  • #14
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whether or not its a marketing ploy. I understand the whole premise is a trade in as mentioned in my post earlier, but to call it "scrappage," I'd expect destruction of the vehicle after trading in.

    Because it worked well for them in the past and most believe what they see written on the sign.l


  • #15
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whether or not its a marketing ploy. I understand the whole premise is a trade in as mentioned in my post earlier, but to call it "scrappage," I'd expect destruction of the vehicle after trading in.

    There was an official scheme during the boom where VRT was reduced when a car was scrapped against a new purchase. It was supposedly to get life expired cars off the roads but seeing as it only applied to those buying new who more often than not were trading in cars that were still mechanically sound it was little more than a subsidy for the SIMI boyos.

    All these current dealer offers are just trading off that still being in the consciousness of many buyers.

    What difference does it make to you if the car you have traded in gets scrapped or put back on the road anyway?


  • #16
    Dravokivich
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    Vic_08 wrote: »

    What difference does it make to you if the car you have traded in gets scrapped or put back on the road anyway?

    None, but for the topic of the thread with someone who owns a non-running car potentially being difficult to submit it for a scrappage promotion. It seems a bit bewildering really.


  • #17
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    None, but for the topic of the thread with someone who owns a non-running car potentially being difficult to submit it for a scrappage promotion. It seems a bit bewildering really.
    The original Government scrappage scheme that was brought in to try and give the car sales market a boost had a number of requirements in terms of being insured, NCTed, etc. They basically meant the vehicle had to be in a driveable/roadworthy condition in order to qualify for the government rebate.

    In effect, to stop people taking the yoke that's been rusting in a field for 20 years and using it to claim a discount on a new car.

    Dealers have tended to stick with this because they have no interest in giving a discount for a piece of scrap; they'd rather something they could sell on in the trade.


  • #18
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The scrappage scheme was brought in on the lead up to NCT launching in 2000. NCT couldn't be a requirement.


  • #19
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The scrappage scheme was brought in on the lead up to NCT launching in 2000. NCT couldn't be a requirement.
    There was a scrappage scheme in 2010.


  • #20
    jimmyw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...do tell: I have an 05 Saab 9-5 dead in my driveway that I would like to extract some value our of. ....

    .....is she the 2.2 diesel????? :P


  • #21
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    jimmyw wrote: »
    .....is she the 2.2 diesel????? :P

    She is 😂

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #22
    jimmyw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    galwaytt wrote: »
    She is 😂

    How did I know that?

    Because the fuel pump on these cars is a flipping nightmare, the engine is a bit agricultural as you know,but it has good torque. It's totally let down by that bag of poo! A failed pump in effect writes off the engine.

    It pains me to say that as I like the saab make,but Saab should have stayed away from the diesel engines that were from other makers.

    Oh,it's GMs fault Aswell !.............


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