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Closed vs Open System

  • 29-10-2016 6:33am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42


    Hi, we are currently getting work done to our house. We have oil fired central heating. Our builder has noted that our plumbing system is an open system, and has recommended we charge to a closed system. To do this we need to install an expansion tank. To do the necessary work will cost €250.

    Is this a good idea? Are closed systems better than open systems in terms of efficiency?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Subotai wrote: »
    Hi, we are currently getting work done to our house. We have oil fired central heating. Our builder has noted that our plumbing system is an open system, and has recommended we charge to a closed system. To do this we need to install an expansion tank. To do the necessary work will cost €250.

    Is this a good idea? Are closed systems better than open systems in terms of efficiency?

    Have you a stove that heats the water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Subotai


    No stove, just the standard copper cylinder in the hot press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Subotai wrote: »
    No stove, just the standard copper cylinder in the hot press.

    If it's piped correctly then an open system is perfectly fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Tom44


    I prefer open systems, less headache's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Tom44 wrote: »
    I prefer open systems, less headache's.

    You'd know what headaches are tom if oil boilers worked on a pressure switch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    I would prefer a closed loop and if your plumber recommends it I would go with it.

    The basic advantage is that there will be less oxygen in the system and so less rust and sludge.

    Another advantage is that all the critical parts of the system are within the living area. This means less heat is lost to the environment and means everything is more accessible for servicing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    I would prefer a closed loop and if your plumber recommends it I would go with it.

    The basic advantage is that there will be less oxygen in the system and so less rust and sludge.

    If piped correctly then no, not the case. In fact, of all the systems I powerflush, I'd safetly say closed systems are where I see the most sludge, by far.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would prefer a closed loop and if your plumber recommends it I would go with it.

    The basic advantage is that there will be less oxygen in the system and so less rust and sludge.

    Another advantage is that all the critical parts of the system are within the living area. This means less heat is lost to the environment and means everything is more accessible for servicing.

    A open system will generate no sludge if a inhibitor is used as with a sealed system, the generation of sludge is more of a water leak issue and both system designs will sludge up the only difference is you don't know you have a leak with a open system (unless you tie up the ball cock)


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