That Yemen picture on the front of the Times Ireland edition

Slydice

Damn, saw the Yemen photo from the front of the Times (Ireland edition) as I was checking broadsheet earlier.

Warning: the photo shows an 18 year old with the effects of starvation visibly showing
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/10/26/de-thursday-papers-183/

very sad

jimgoose

This displeases me.

RobertKK

The Saudis are probably delighted their blockade is working against Yemen in their battle with Iran.
The war against Yemen has not received enough coverage, and to think Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State signed off on a $29 billion plus arms deal with Saudi Arabia, which has been used to bomb Yemen and cause great suffering.

Dr Crayfish

Well all feel a bit bad for a nanosecond and think how awful it is and then get on with our lives

Slydice

Damn, the photos and news on the UN twitter account for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in Yemen:
https://twitter.com/ochayemen

feck

Dr Crayfish

It's hard to believe this can happen nowadays with all the food we waste

ChikiChiki

Jesus that's grim. That's the first I heard about a Saudi Arabia blockade of food supplies into Yemen.

Not hearing much about this in the media, why is that?

Clarebelly

The saudis are lovely people......... and Hillary is gentle old lady.

ChikiChiki

Slydice wrote: »

Damn, the photos and news on the UN twitter account for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in Yemen:
https://twitter.com/ochayemen

feck

Oh my, horrific what human beings can do to one another, horrific. :mad:

Cervantes2

But but but but Russia 🙄

podgemonster

That arsonist is pretty hot on the Examiner

Gatling

Unfortunately when dealing with Saudi and Iran its unfortunately going to keep happening regardless who tells them to stop ,
Neither state bows to pressure and it's not an issue domestically for them,

Shocking stuff

wes

Gatling wrote: »

Unfortunately when dealing with Saudi and Iran its unfortunately going to keep happening regardless who tells them to stop ,

That is fair enough, but maybe people should stop selling them weapons?

Gatling

wes wrote: »

That is fair enough, but maybe people should stop selling them weapons?

Absolutely They should stop

Here's the issue ,if america stopped selling bombs and weapons to saudi other countries would be straight in there to replace them,

FTA69

Saudi Arabia are without a doubt one of the most horrendous regimes in the world. An authoritarian, near-fascist theocracy presided over by an unelected royal family that lives in extreme opulence. When they aren't sending their Wahabbi lunatics to Europe to cause bother for the rest of us, they're bombing the sh*t out of their neighbours in a battle for regional supremacy.

However, when criticising these people we also need to criticise those who enable them and facilitate this sort of bloodshed. Both Britain and the US are staunchly backing this regime, and not just providing political cover but providing the actual munitions being used in this horrific conflict.

Remember that next time you see some political figure banging on about 'democracy' and 'human rights' in the Middle East or specifically in countries like Syria. How can someone militarily back Saudi and then condemn Assad and the Russians with a straight face?

This is the reality of Middle Eastern intervention, it isn't about freedom, or democracy or any of that. Your Clintons and Putins and the rest couldn't give a f*ck about anything but strategic power and oil. It's a disgrace.

Arcade_Tryer

As he is 18 years of age and NOT a WOMAN or a CHILD, I do NOT care.

If he had the chance he would come over to our country to try and claim some kind of support and subsequently perhaps get a job. He doesn't even have the same culture as us. I wish him the best of look in his future endeavours though.

Gatling

We seen similar pictures from Hospitals in Venezuela recently only there not been bombed in a warzone

jimgoose

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

As he is 18 years of age and NOT a WOMAN or a CHILD, I do NOT care.

If he had the chance he would come over to our country to try and claim some kind of support and subsequently perhaps get a job. He doesn't even have the same culture as us. I wish him the best of look in his future endeavours though.

She's a woman.

goose2005

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

It's hard to believe this can happen nowadays with all the food we waste

Famine isn't caused by food waste, generally it's caused by political affairs.

goose2005

Gatling wrote: »

Absolutely They should stop

Here's the issue ,if america stopped selling bombs and weapons to saudi other countries would be straight in there to replace them,

and if deco didn't sell heroin, someone else would. does that make it OK?

conorhal

FTA69 wrote: »

Saudi Arabia are without a doubt one of the most horrendous regimes in the world. An authoritarian, near-fascist theocracy presided over by an unelected royal family that lives in extreme opulence. When they aren't sending their Wahabbi lunatics to Europe to cause bother for the rest of us, they're bombing the sh*t out of their neighbours in a battle for regional supremacy.

However, when criticising these people we also need to criticise those who enable them and facilitate this sort of bloodshed. Both Britain and the US are staunchly backing this regime, and not just providing political cover but providing the actual munitions being used in this horrific conflict.

Remember that next time you see some political figure banging on about 'democracy' and 'human rights' in the Middle East or specifically in countries like Syria. How can someone militarily back Saudi and then condemn Assad and the Russians with a straight face?

This is the reality of Middle Eastern intervention, it isn't about freedom, or democracy or any of that. Your Clintons and Putins and the rest couldn't give a f*ck about anything but strategic power and oil. It's a disgrace.

Surely the UN will do something about this?

Oh right....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anger-after-saudi-arabia-chosen-to-head-key-un-human-rights-panel-10509716.html

The United Nations is coming under fire for handing Saudi Arabia a key human rights role even though the Kingdom has “arguably the worst record in the world” on freedoms for women, minorities and dissidents.

Sonics2k

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

As he is 18 years of age and NOT a WOMAN or a CHILD, I do NOT care.

If he had the chance he would come over to our country to try and claim some kind of support and subsequently perhaps get a job. He doesn't even have the same culture as us. I wish him the best of look in his future endeavours though.

You're kidding, right?

foggy_lad

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Jesus that's grim. That's the first I heard about a Saudi Arabia blockade of food supplies into Yemen.

Not hearing much about this in the media, why is that?

WE are too busy looking after people who have no real reason to seek refuge in Europe except they are poor.


Has widespread starvation been confirmed in Yemen as the UN twitter page doesn't show anything about it? they are concentrating on Cholera.

HensVassal

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Jesus that's grim. That's the first I heard about a Saudi Arabia blockade of food supplies into Yemen.

Not hearing much about this in the media, why is that?

You expect the media to tell you uncomfortable truths?

twill

A short summary of the Saudi-US coalition war in Yemen.

Yamanoto

conorhal wrote: »

Surely the UN will do something about this?

They're sending Wonder Woman to Riyadh for talks I believe.

ChikiChiki

HensVassal wrote: »

You expect the media to tell you uncomfortable truths?

No that was moreso a rhetorical question. Many of us (not all) know the MSM is corrupted to the core at this point and drives agendas. It's blatantly obvious our war mongering friends the USA are trying to hide their role in the Yemen activities.

Gatling

goose2005 wrote: »

and if deco didn't sell heroin, someone else would. does that make it OK?

That's what's going to happen your taking about hundreds of billions spent every year around the globe on weapons and defence
One stops selling tens of other will happily replace them it's the cold hard facts of conflict

HensVassal

wes wrote: »

That is fair enough, but maybe people should stop selling them weapons?

A food blockade is classified as collective and is by definition a war crime and a crime against humanity. Harsh sanctions should be levelled against Saudi Arabia but it speaks volumes that that hasn't happened.

endacl

So, a nation who's only products are oil and human misery are now exporting the latter as well as the former?

The sooner we're all off the oil tit the better. The House of Saud can eat sand then.

Arcade_Tryer

jimgoose wrote: »

She's a woman.

My mistake. I for one welcome our new malnourished Saudi Arabian overlords should they seek a better life or some food in our country.

HensVassal

endacl wrote: »

So, a nation who's only products are oil and human misery are now exporting the latter as well as the former?

The sooner we're all off the oil tit the better. The House of Saud can eat sand then.

If cars ran on penguin blood the US would have its fleet surrounding Antarctica.

pickarooney

Slydice wrote: »

Damn, the photos and news on the UN twitter account for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in Yemen:
https://twitter.com/ochayemen

feck

Och aye men?

nice_guy80

Not very many Americans mention gun control in the Middle East...

RobertKK

The starvation in Yemen continues...

http://www.thejournal.ie/yemen-famine-3208005-Jan2017/

About 14 million people – nearly 80% of the entire Yemeni population – are in need of food aid, half of whom are severely food insecure, O’Brien said.

At least 2 million people need emergency food assistance to survive, he added.

The situation is particularly dire for children with some 2.2 million infants now suffering from acute malnourishment – an increase of 53% from late 2015.

“Overall, the plight of children remains grim: a child under the age of 10 dying every 10 minutes of preventable causes,” O’Brien said.

The Saudi-led coalition’s shutdown of the Sanaa airport has had a heavy toll on civilians because medicine cannot be flown in and Yemenis cannot receive treatment abroad.

O’Brien warned that Yemen could run out of wheat within months because foreign banks no longer accept financial transactions with many of the country’s commercial banks.

A child dying from preventable causes every 10 minutes, as the country slips into a famine where 14 million people need food aid.
The Saudis also destroyed the main port in Yemen and have stopped equipment from reaching Yemen that could make the port usable again.
The Saudis also destroyed agricultural land in Yemen, to aid a famine.

conorhal

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump has a moral duty to intervene to stop the starvation in Yemen which the previous president failed on.

I suspect the same failed policies towards Yemen to stay, a blind eye turned to the country by people who like to get out to protest to continue, and the starvation process in that country to continue unabated.

This starvation where a child under 10 dies every 10 minutes in Yemen is something a US president could stop if they wanted.

I'd say he has a moral duty not to facilitate this war by selling arms to the Saudi's, IMO he does not have a moral duty to unilaterally intervene, let the UN pull their thumb out and address the conflict.

It was largely the western media demanding intervention and bleating 'won't somone think of the children!' which resulted in the mess that Syria is today, and like Syria, intervention in Yemen would be a zero sum game because the actors on BOTH sides are pretty sketchy and you would end up with the same situation, wondering which lesser of two evils to back and which is most likey to bite you in the arse.

RobertKK wrote: »

Stop the bombing would be a start, and have peace talks.
Have a UN resolution where the Saudis are condemned for destroying crops and farmland in Yemen - it wouldn't pass but at least it would draw attention.
Stop arm sales to Saudi Arabia.
Set up a no fly zone over Yemen.
Fix the airport and the sea ports to allow aid in.
Sanctions against the Saudis until they stop their proxy war in Yemen against Iran.

There are some reasonable suggestions here, but lets not go down the exact same path that was taken in Syria and Libya, I shudder when I hear 'no fly zones' being proposed considering where that ended.

ScumLord

FTA69 wrote: »

However, when criticising these people we also need to criticise those who enable them and facilitate this sort of bloodshed.

Us, the consumers of oil?

Special Circumstances

Lot of posters critical of the House of Saud banned since this thread started.

What's the official boards agenda on Yemen? Something something trump Russia?

Zebra3

FTA69 wrote: »

Saudi Arabia are without a doubt one of the most horrendous regimes in the world. An authoritarian, near-fascist theocracy presided over by an unelected royal family that lives in extreme opulence. When they aren't sending their Wahabbi lunatics to Europe to cause bother for the rest of us, they're bombing the sh*t out of their neighbours in a battle for regional supremacy.

However, when criticising these people we also need to criticise those who enable them and facilitate this sort of bloodshed. Both Britain and the US are staunchly backing this regime, and not just providing political cover but providing the actual munitions being used in this horrific conflict.

Remember that next time you see some political figure banging on about 'democracy' and 'human rights' in the Middle East or specifically in countries like Syria. How can someone militarily back Saudi and then condemn Assad and the Russians with a straight face?

This is the reality of Middle Eastern intervention, it isn't about freedom, or democracy or any of that. Your Clintons and Putins and the rest couldn't give a f*ck about anything but strategic power and oil. It's a disgrace.

House of Saud are pure vermin.

Supported and loved by every US president including the one who just left office that so many sadly seem to think was some sort of decent human being.

Mark Curtis writes some great stuff on Saudi crimes and US and British complicity. Well worth a read.

Special Circumstances

Zebra3 wrote: »

House of Saud are pure vermin.

Supported and loved by every US president including the one who just left office that so many sadly seem to think was some sort of decent human being.

Mark Curtis writes some great stuff on Saudi crimes and US and British complicity. Well worth a read.

It seems the boards "on message" crew and the media just don't five a guck unless there's a 7 year old with awesome wifi connection and a prodigious command of a foreign language all over twitter.

The Yemenis are fawked until they find their own version.