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Changing Driving Instructor

  • 20-10-2016 1:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭


    Hi all, I've 6 lessons completed but only 2 or 3 are filled in on logbook just wondering does anyone know if your changing instructors would it be a issue if all lessons are not filled in .. Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Aaron97 wrote: »
    Hi all, I've 6 lessons completed but only 2 or 3 are filled in on logbook just wondering does anyone know if your changing instructors would it be a issue if all lessons are not filled in .. Thanks

    Yeah it will matter, make sure you get onto that instructor and ask him/her to update. Some instructors are lazy when doing this and take weeks/months. Ring them and ask them to update and you don't owe them an explanation if they ask why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    Aaron97 wrote: »
    Hi all, I've 6 lessons completed but only 2 or 3 are filled in on logbook just wondering does anyone know if your changing instructors would it be a issue if all lessons are not filled in .. Thanks

    Are the 3 that are filled in the last 3 that you completed? It could be that you did preparation lessons right at the beginning if you had little or no experience. If this was the case it should have been fully explained to you for the avoidance of doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭J_R


    Are the 3 that are filled in the last 3 that you completed? It could be that you did preparation lessons right at the beginning if you had little or no experience. If this was the case it should have been fully explained to you for the avoidance of doubt.

    Hi,

    these perhaps are called pre-lessons :confused: .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    J_R wrote: »
    Hi,

    these perhaps are called pre-lessons :confused: .

    Hi J_R

    What are you confused about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭J_R


    Hi J_R

    What are you confused about?

    Just how can you have a lesson before a lesson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    J_R wrote: »
    Just how can you have a lesson before a lesson

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    From the EDT information booklet.
    Preparation for Lesson 1:

    "You should practice with your sponsor, ADI or both......

    ....you should practice for at least 3hrs before your first EDT lesson."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭J_R


    Hi,

    that is one of the reasons I decided to retire from instructing as I could not teach that EDT syllabus.

    Who ever wrote that never had to correct the bad habits that could develop from a few hours with a sponsor prior to the first lesson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    J_R wrote: »
    Hi,

    that is one of the reasons I decided to retire from instructing as I could not teach that EDT syllabus.

    Who ever wrote that never had to correct the bad habits that could develop from a few hours with a sponsor prior to the first lesson.

    It's quite simple and far from unteachable imo.

    With little or no experience you assess them when you meet that at first. If they have the bad habits, you refer to above, you explain to the pupil the importance of fixing those habits prior to proceeding to the EDT lessons.

    Even prior to the existence of EDT I'm positive you had pupils present to you with the same bad habits on their first lesson as I've had in the last week or 2, four and half years after it's inception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭J_R


    Hi,

    Can only speak of my own personal experience. I kept a very detailed record of all my pupils. (To comply with data protection I unfortunately deleted the entire spreadsheet when I retired - should only have deleted the personal details)

    However do remember this:-

    On average, If I had a pupil with no experience whatsoever on the fourth lesson I used to have them drive through town to an industrial estate where we did the three manoeuvres. Two to test standard (just need practice) and the third, the reverse, generally would have them reverse into a lane-way. Would tell them leave the corner - reverse until totally happy with roughly reversing. Then back through town - unaided.

    But if I had a pupil who had practised for a few hours in a car park it would be the fifth lesson before I felt they were ready to negotiate town and they very seldom completed the three manoeuvres satisfactory. And even on the fifth lesson they might need the odd prompt at traffic lights. (Main problems, poor car control and confidence).

    That again is my own personal experience. Shame I deleted the spreadsheets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭J_R


    Hi,

    And of course bad habits can be cleared - eventually, but it will take time and money.

    And I did have a few pupils that despite my best efforts, I was unable to correct.

    Why advise pupils, put them at risk of getting them in the first place


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