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no support for dyslexic child

  • 19-10-2016 6:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭


    Hi..I really need advice for my child..she's finding this year very hard even after speaking to the new teacher several times explaining this. She doesn't seem to understand dyslexic at all and doesn't explain to her clearly what needs to be done for homework. I feel I'm wasting my time talking to the teacher as she's making no changes. What can I do, I'm thinking of going to the board of education?? Any advice PLEASE I'd love some.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Does she have SNA or resource hours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭beechwood55


    What age is she and what class is she in? And has she had a formal diagnosis of dsylexia?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Has she been tested?

    Dyslexia Association of Ireland can be a good resource


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Does she have SNA or resource hours?

    No SNA but there is one in class for another boy but no help for my child but she gets extra help outside class with just english after arguing for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    What age is she and what class is she in? And has she had a formal diagnosis of dsylexia?

    She's 10 and in 4th class. Yes she was formally diagnosed with dyslexia..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    godtabh wrote: »
    Has she been tested?

    Dyslexia Association of Ireland can be a good resource

    Yes she was assessed by ourselves as school didn't believe she had an issue but we knew
    Yes I'm with dyslexia of Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,069 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    My young lad has the same condition.

    There were all these help books etc but I left them. Hes doing ok with a mix of subjects.You need to get a feel for what she is good at. Don't force things that she finds difficult. She will get a feel for certain subjects and pastimes and let her follow that path. Don't let it become a huge issue.

    My previous boss is an accountant and he's dyslexic !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Queenalocin


    Try and go to the weekly workshops run by local branchs of Dyslexia Association.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    No SNA but there is one in class for another boy but no help for my child but she gets extra help outside class with just english after arguing for it!

    Children with dyslexia would never get an SNA. SNA are for care needs such as toileting.Likewise, dyslexia no longer gets resource hours. If a child with dyslexia scores above the 10th percentile in standardized tests, they are not legally entitled to learning support at all.Why do you think she would need support with other areas besides literacy?Does she has dyscalculia too?


    Is the issue solely around homework?Some children with dyslexia also have organizational difficulties.


    What do you mean by "The Board of Education" -do you mean the Board of Management?

    Sorry for all the questions, I'm in Learning Support so just trying to get a handle on the whole picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    No SNA but there is one in class for another boy but no help for my child but she gets extra help outside class with just english after arguing for it!

    Children with dyslexia would never get an SNA. SNA are for care needs such as toileting.Likewise, dyslexia no longer gets resource hours. If a child with dyslexia scores above the 10th percentile in standardized tests, they are not legally entitled to learning support at all.Why do you think she would need support with other areas besides literacy?Does she has dyscalculia too?


    Is the issue solely around homework?Some children with dyslexia also have organizational difficulties.


    What do you mean by "The Board of Education" -do you mean the Board of Management?

    Sorry for all the questions, I'm in Learning Support so just trying to get a handle on the whole picture.

    Hi. I know she's not entitled to resource hours but does get help with english as she's (on the report) severely dyslexic. I also know she would not get an SNA but as there's one in the class for one child I don't see why she could help a little with my child. Sometimes teachers need to have feel empathy for children who are newly diagnosed and try understand how they are coping as the law is not always fair. Home work is a hard issue as the teacher does not explain things to her clearly and she doesn't pick it up as fast as the other students so it's tears every evening. I was referring to the board of education. Hope that answers the questions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    ebbsy wrote: »
    My young lad has the same condition.

    There were all these help books etc but I left them. Hes doing ok with a mix of subjects.You need to get a feel for what she is good at. Don't force things that she finds difficult. She will get a feel for certain subjects and pastimes and let her follow that path. Don't let it become a huge issue.

    My previous boss is an accountant and he's dyslexic !!!!

    That's great, I just feel I need to set foundations now for her later maybe I'm mad!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    The Sna could Be in trouble if a SENO knew they were doing duties other than those s/he is contracted to do with that child .
    I think you need to meet with the teacher and learning support teacher and try to find a workable solution for your girl . There should be no tears at home !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Brioscai


    With all the cutbacks, many SNAs are shared by classes and children only granted access. Many SNAs attempt to help other children but would very much depend on the needs of the child they are with, whether they can help others. Sadly there are no resource hours for dyslexia so your daughter must be getting learning support, possibly in a group. If severely dyslexic, you may have been recommended to send her to the schools for dyslexic children for two years, which can work wonders. You might consider using Toe by Toe or Nessy at home, it may help. Some people find coloured filters help.

    I would also talk to the teacher about getting the homework typed up/ a buddy to write it in, if she is not managing to. At 4th class it's often mostly the same every day (Mental maths, Spellings, tables). The teacher could possibly stick a post it on the maths page to be done next etc. If your daughter has issues with organisation/coordination, you might consider reassessment for speech and language or dyspraxia, as resource hours are given for these.

    There is no Board of Education. There is a Board of Management (of your school) or the Dept of Education and Skills. You should address your concerns to the teacher and advise that you are taking it to the principal next, if you cannot get help. You might also consider talking to the learning support teacher... Ideally get a meeting with both ls and class teacher together. If you get no satisfaction, go to the principal, complaints are taken then to the BOM. The DES are a disgrace having left dyslexic children with no support so you won't get satisfaction there.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Toe By Toe is very tedious but well worth the time. For children who have issues transcribing from the board, the buddy writer would help, but it seems the issue is actually understanding the work, by my reading of the OP.

    The learning support teacher would know your daughter reasonably well right now and would usually have a lot of experience with children with dyslexia, so I really would try to meet the LS and class teacher together so that everyone who has a stake in the issue can get together to help resolve it. As I said, tears at home need to be prevented.

    What recommendations did the ed. psychologist make?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭zoviea


    Toe By Toe is very tedious but well worth the time. For children who have issues transcribing from the board, the buddy writer would help, but it seems the issue is actually understanding the work, by my reading of the OP.

    The learning support teacher would know your daughter reasonably well right now and would usually have a lot of experience with children with dyslexia, so I really would try to meet the LS and class teacher together so that everyone who has a stake in the issue can get together to help resolve it. As I said, tears at home need to be prevented.

    What recommendations did the ed. psychologist make?

    Yes we are doing toe by toe at home
    She has a new ls this year so she's doesn't know her that good. The psychologist recommended the teacher high light things for him. Different colours on the board and explaining things clearly on a one to one basic with the likes of maths. But this is not been followed..Got a speech and language assessment done and that came back fine so no issues there.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    The Learning Support would probably know your child better than the class teacher at present , from working in small group work Does she ask the teacher to explain things-sometimes I find older children can be a bit shy about saying they need clarification? Very often, they will find others needed the clarification too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭overmantle


    zoviea wrote: »
    Hi. I know she's not entitled to resource hours but does get help with english as she's (on the report) severely dyslexic. I also know she would not get an SNA but as there's one in the class for one child I don't see why she could help a little with my child. Sometimes teachers need to have feel empathy for children who are newly diagnosed and try understand how they are coping as the law is not always fair. Home work is a hard issue as the teacher does not explain things to her clearly and she doesn't pick it up as fast as the other students so it's tears every evening. I was referring to the board of education. Hope that answers the questions.
    The term, 'Board of Education' is not used in this country. There is no such thing here. I presume you either mean, 'The Board of Management' of the school or 'The Department of Education', which is a Department within the Government of the country, which is headed by the Minister for Education, Richard Bruton.


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