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Avertising of jobs publicly that have already "gone"

  • 18-10-2016 9:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭


    I was wondering what the legal situation about employers who advertise a position for appearances only. Where in reality the position was already promised to someone internally.

    I recently applied for a job that I was more then qualified for.

    I was shocked that I not even get called for interview.

    In my annoyance, I emailed the employer, and I asked what qualifications/experience I should be looking for based on my CV?

    To my surprise, I received a reply saying they were very impressed with my qualifications/experience. But, the position was given to a person who was already working there.



    Is this permitted?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


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    The irony is the job was in the Law Society Library!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Probably a case of having to advertise publicly to adhere to whatever legislation is there but as they have someone internal who knows the job, an internal interview is all that required to rubber stamp his suitability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,260 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Probably a case of having to advertise publicly to adhere to whatever legislation is there but as they have someone internal who knows the job, an internal interview is all that required to rubber stamp his suitability.
    There's no legislation requiring employers to advertise vacancies publicly; they're always free to fill them internally.

    If they advertise publicly it's because they choose to. In a case like the one mentioned in the OP they may have advertised to see if they could attract applications from someone more qualified than the internal candidate and, if they had, they might then have proceeded to competititive interview.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭plodder


    My daughter just qualified as a teacher and she went for a few interviews where the position had already been given (informally) to a teacher already in the school on a temporary contract. It was good practice for my daughter but a waste of time otherwise. I'm guessing there are rules/regulations requiring schools to go through the motions regardless. If anything, it's those regulations that should be changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    There's no legislation requiring employers to advertise vacancies publicly; they're always free to fill them internally.
    Correct, it's usually some internal process or union agreement which requires roles to be advertised at all.
    I have seen policies which require that a company advertises a vacancy externally if there is only one internal candidate - so nobody can say they were awarded the job by default.

    Bureaucracy, doesn't surprise me at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭plodder


    seamus wrote: »
    Correct, it's usually some internal process or union agreement which requires roles to be advertised at all.
    I have seen policies which require that a company advertises a vacancy externally if there is only one internal candidate - so nobody can say they were awarded the job by default.

    Bureaucracy, doesn't surprise me at all.
    I imagine it suits the government as well to make it look like there are more public sector jobs available than there are really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    plodder wrote: »
    My daughter just qualified as a teacher and she went for a few interviews where the position had already been given (informally) to a teacher already in the school on a temporary contract. It was good practice for my daughter but a waste of time otherwise. I'm guessing there are rules/regulations requiring schools to go through the motions regardless. If anything, it's those regulations that should be changed.

    Not necessarily true.
    We had a teacher in temporarily. There was a job but as she was not on the panel it had to go to a person on the panel.
    They would have kept her but couldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭plodder


    Not necessarily true.
    We had a teacher in temporarily. There was a job but as she was not on the panel it had to go to a person on the panel.
    They would have kept her but couldn't.
    I've heard about that "rule" as well. Not sure I agree with it either.

    On the OP's point about qualifications and experience, my (student) son was applying for a retail job online and they were asking questions about educational qualifications, like higher degrees and the like. I was speculating that they might not have been looking for people with higher degrees, and were possibly just filtering them out ...


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