Toilet is Moving

torrevieja

Hi folks fathers toilet is moving now on one side

i have had a look at the screws holding the toilet and yes there rusted corroded and no head on them

He is Waiting to get a grant for the Bathroom to be done up any help or advice to get something done temporary i would appreciate any advice thanks

Might need help on this

Water John

Is this the seat or the floor?

torrevieja

its the floor

Water John

Might look rough, but steel strapping across it and nailed to the floor tight.

torrevieja

need hilti nails now

Water John

Steel nails should do. Two on each side. The second nail would go in where the strap rises to go over the toilet leg. That will do the tightening.

RJF

Just put silicone all around the base.
Make sure its clean and dry before you apply and leave at least 6 hours to cure.
Be sure to use sanitary silicone or tec 7.

the_pen_turner

I would stick it down with a good glue . something like pu5 .

straping could break the bowl.

the_pen_turner

what kind of floor covering is there. .
is there room for a second screw to go beside the first.

make sure that the new bowl is fitted with stainless steel screws

freddyuk

Er brass actually? Why is so difficult for a plumber to use the proper screws? It cost pennies to do it properly but I bet 90% of toilet bowls are fixed with cheap steel screws which RUST! Quite pathetic.

torrevieja

there all rusted coroded no not really any room

one side seems to be ok its just the other side thats moving could i put the tec 7 or pu5 on one half ?

not sure when there doing this bathroom yet

torrevieja

freddyuk wrote: »

Er brass actually? Why is so difficult for a plumber to use the proper screws? It cost pennies to do it properly but I bet 90% of toilet bowls are fixed with cheap steel screws which RUST! Quite pathetic.

probably there since 1970, impossible to get out id say

unless someone can do something for me

Tom44

Grip fill or ( appropriate named) "No more Nails" would be better than a silicon based adhesive like Tec7.
It goes solid with great adhesion. IMHO

Tom44

torrevieja wrote: »

need hilti nails now

:eek:

torrevieja

tec 7, PU5, No More Nails , Grip Fill, Which:eek: one,

agusta

For me its Tec 7,white in colour..,wipe of excess with the use of white spirits

torrevieja

as the other side is holding i hope:o

Tom44

torrevieja wrote: »

tec 7, PU5, No More Nails , Grip Fill, Which:eek: one,

Grip fill or No more nails, both are simular products.

Comes in a tube and applied with a silicon gun.
Available from most hardware stores or Woodies or B&Q

torrevieja

Tom44 wrote: »

Grip fill or No more nails, both are simular products.

Comes in a tube and applied with a silicon gun.
Available from most hardware stores or Woodies or B&Q

Hi tom which grip fill is it rge green or the yellow ones a solvent

torrevieja

torrevieja wrote: »

Hi tom which grip fill is it rge green or the yellow ones a solvent

Weell no more nails was a disaster toilet moved two days later

RJF

RJF wrote: »

Just put silicone all around the base.
Make sure its clean and dry before you apply and leave at least 6 hours to cure.
Be sure to use sanitary silicone or tec 7.

I have used good quality sanitary silicone or Tec 7 to install dozens of toilets where it was awkward or unsuitable to use screws or bolts. Many have been in place for over 15 years with no problem. I have NEVER had a callback when doing this. The trick is to make sure the base and floor is CLEAN AND DRY and do not touch, move or sit on toilet for at least six hours. Be sure to go all around the base and any you can get in under it is useful.

I have secured many in exactly your situation.

Gripfill is poor for this and no more nails is useless.

Tom44

torrevieja wrote: »

Weell no more nails was a disaster toilet moved two days later

I've never had a problem with it, sorry.
Maybe the amount you put in was to bulky to cure.
The instructions are normally fairly accurate.

listermint

Id never buy no more nails over Tech 7 tbh.

Tech 7 has always been the job for me.

RJF

Example of bowl installed with clear sanitary silicone and no screws.
Installed circa 2008.

The Diddakoi

How about trying Sticks Like Sh*t ?? (sorry)

http://www.ie.screwfix.com/evo-stik-sticks-like-sh-t-clear-290ml.html

Bonds to wet surfaces too.

torrevieja

RJF wrote: »

Example of bowl installed with clear sanitary silicone and no screws.
Installed circa 2008.

One side of toilet is screwed in no heads on screews other side is not so I will try with tec 7 aghhhh

torrevieja

torrevieja wrote: »

One side of toilet is screwed in no heads on screews other side is not so I will try with tec 7 aghhhh

By the way which tec7 quite a lot of different ones on shelf

the_pen_turner

if the bowl can be lifted up by a 1/4 inch I would use the tech 7 that bonds and seals. if it cant be lifted I would use the normal tech 7. it will go under the bowl a lot easier.


the reason I suggested pu 5 was for this reason. it will go under fairly easily and will set rock solid. tech 7 will still give a small bit.



gripfill type products are pretty rubbish in general. silicone and polyurethane based products have overtaken them and left the grip fill type almost pointless