Planning permission required?

emmetg

I have a 30 foot shed out the end of my back garden and im thinking of putting a pitch loft on top of the roof the shed is around 3 meters high
My question is how high can i go with a loft roof im thinking around 3 more meters high making all in all 6 meters high from the ground up
Is this allowed or is the max you can go 4 meters with out planning permission ?

Gumbo

emmetg wrote: »

I have a 30 foot shed out the end of my back garden and im thinking of putting a pitch loft on top of the roof the shed is around 3 meters high
My question is how high can i go with a loft roof im thinking around 3 more meters high making all in all 6 meters high from the ground up
Is this allowed or is the max you can go 4 meters with out planning permission ?

Max height of 4m for a shed applies.
3m with a flat roof.
Any higher, planning required.

Also, no habitable accommodation in there so that means you can't put a bedroom or kitchen basically.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

that means you can't put a bedroom or kitchen basically.

What distinguishes a bedroom, apart from the presence of a bed.. which can be moved in or out at a moments notice?
Sounds like this is unenforceable , unless of course the owner has a full time tenant in there....
And what could the Council insist be done, apart from a ritual burning of the bed...?

Prenderb

Council have many powers of enforcement, including fines!

Where any of these offences involve the construction of an unauthorised development,
the minimum fine is:
• indictment: the cost of constructing the structure or €12,700, whichever is less;
• summary: the cost of constructing the structure or €2,500, whichever is less.

From http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad%2C31564%2Cen.pdf

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

What distinguishes a bedroom, apart from the presence of a bed.. which can be moved in or out at a moments notice?
Sounds like this is unenforceable , unless of course the owner has a full time tenant in there....
And what could the Council insist be done, apart from a ritual burning of the bed...?

Don't shoot the messenger. Believe me, Planning enforcement have enough powers to have you in court quite sharply.

But it all depends on if someone complains.
The unit cannot be capable of being lived in. Those are the words of a Planning enforcement Officer and a kitchen falls into this category. A bedroom is quite hard to prove so yes, the removal of the bed for the inspection may be enough to get you through it but if there's a kitchen then they will make you remove that.

I've seen them making people remove showers etc too.

BryanF

Deleted User wrote: »

What distinguishes a bedroom, apart from the presence of a bed.. which can be moved in or out at a moments notice?
Sounds like this is unenforceable , unless of course the owner has a full time tenant in there....
And what could the Council insist be done, apart from a ritual burning of the bed...?

See section 6.1 for the forum charter thanks
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055036302

BryanF

BryanF wrote: »

See section 6.1 for the forum charter thanks
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055036302

Apologies. Not trying to get around the process just curious how legally these things can be evidenced and acted on

Angry bird

If it looks like a ducks, quacks like a duck... TV aerials, satellite dishes, flues, gas etc etc are very easy to spot and the enforcement guys can spot BS a mile off.