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West Brom vs Tottenham 3:00pm Saturday 15th October

  • 14-10-2016 6:40am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


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    Never an easy game, I'll take any sort of win after the shítty internationals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭Ormus


    7 games coming up in the next 23 days, possibly some jet lagged players, and The Moose has suffered a setback in training. I think it's amazing how well we've done without him and Harry. If we could rest one or two and get any kinda scratchy win at the Hawthorns, that'd be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    He'll probably field the same side that faced City, barring injuries.

    Gotta play Son, which sucks for Janssen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Sugarlumps wrote: »
    He'll probably field the same side that faced City, barring injuries.

    Gotta play Son, which sucks for Janssen.

    I think Janssen will still get plenty gametime if he keeps the head down. Nice goal he got for Holland the other day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭eoinola


    i am going to this game tomorrow - cant wait. First away game in a long while - was hoping Dembele would be fit to play but looking unlikely.

    We owe these after that horrible draw towards the end of last season when i felt our title bid ended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Hate playing West brom and their crap football,wouldn't be surprised if poch rotated the full backs for this game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    Hugo Lloris
    Toby Alderweireld
    Ben Davies
    Jan Vertonghen
    Kyle Walker
    Dele Alli
    Christian Eriksen
    Erik Lamela
    Moussa Sissoko
    Victor Wanyama
    Vincent Janssen

    Substitutes: Michel Vorm, Kieran Trippier, Mousa Dembélé, Eric Dier, Georges-Kévin Nkoudou, Josh Onomah, Son Heung-Min.

    Ben Foster
    Craig Dawson
    Jonny Evans
    Gareth McAuley
    Nyom
    Nacer Chadli
    Darren Fletcher
    James McClean
    Matt Phillips
    Claudio Yacob
    Salomón Rondón

    Substitutes: Boaz Myhill, Jonas Olsson, Chris Brunt, Craig Gardner, Jonathan Leko, James Morrison, Hal Robson-Kanu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Great atmosphere, Coys

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Hope Jansen gets one today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭prodsc


    Ben Foster having great game so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Typical West brom,soak up the pressure and hope for goal from a set piece or something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,564 ✭✭✭✭Tauriel


    Do you think that Son will get a run in the second half?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Do you think that Son will get a run in the second half?


    Hope he does, Jansen needs a partner up front with him

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Toby down,disaster.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Absolute worst thing that could happen. Toby has been immense all season, so hopefully it's not too bad.

    Wimmer must be really out of favour if he isn't even on the bench today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    Kiith wrote:
    Wimmer must be really out of favour if he isn't even on the bench today.

    I guess Dier provides cover for centre back and centre mid, so Wimmer is suffering from the arrival of Wanyama.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭DaDerv


    Seems strange that against a team who are notoriously hard to break down, we drop our main goalscoring threat? 70 Minutes and this has been poor. Waiting far too long. A typical game where when you leave an opposition like this in it for so long they'll get something late on. After masterminding the City game you'd have to question Poch's selection here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭prodsc


    Could end up losing this.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    This is turning into a real Spurs day. Absolutely awful defending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    It had to be Nacer :o

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Fecking hell,bound to happen...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭prodsc


    FFS Chadli!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    prodsc wrote: »
    Could end up losing this.
    Lotto Numbers by any chance also.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    How many ****ing chances do we need. Our play in the final 3rd has been awful again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    1 nil chadli typical unlucky Hugo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭DaDerv


    Predictable. He got a lot of praise for City but this was terrible by Poch. Davies over Rose reduces threat, Janssen cant score, Son dropped. Bizzare. Loss and Toby injury. Will be another **** day at West Brom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Serious lack of quality in the final third. No magic at all. Should be winning this at a canter. Huff and puff is great against city when everyone ups their game, today we have lads taking it handy.
    Weak mentality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Alli Magic, just like that :P

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    YESSSSS ALLIIII


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Forster had a blinder :o

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    They need to hire someone who actually can train the players how to take a corner. It's actually embarrassing how bad we are at them.




  • Wonder how Toby is? Think it was a good point considering the blow of losing him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    Tottenham Hotspur remain unbeaten in their first eight league games for the first time since 1990.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Jason 5pu45


    Think that's an excellent point considering we lost Toby and went a goal down with just 8 mins to go.In the past we would have crumbled but we showed great character.only negative is Janssen not scoring and for me he is too similar in style to Harry plus he seems to get caught in non threatening positions too often.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    My problem with Jansen up front on his own so far is every single ball is played into him with his back to goal. I've not seen a single instance where the ball was put in a position where he could get a shot off early. I know his strength is one of his...strengths, but i'd like to see him put in better positions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Left Back on the Bench


    Thought we played very well, dropped off abit 2nd half but still unbeaten. Hope Tobys ok, massive loss. Wimmer must've seriously pissed off poch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭galinka


    Not much space behind Jansson today - usual line out by Pulis playing at home for a point.
    Thought we did well considering we had an on Leverkusen game no doubt - which could decide qualification


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    If Liverpool win tomorrow night we go 4th, despite our best PL start.... Just shows how competitive this season is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭eoinola


    I was at this game yesterday - Spurs were absolutely dominant in first half and should have had 2 goals at least. Some of my thoughts ...

    Ali's movement in the first half bewteen the lines was unreal, he drifts in and out of really great positions. Unfortunately erikisen, Davies, Lamela, wanyama didn't see them or weren't able to pass the ball to him. But Ali needs to practice his finishing. The one on one chance - from when took the ball to when he hit it he never looked confident that he was going to score. Second half west Brom pushed up a little more and Ali wasn't in the game nearly as much. But popped up for the goal. A brilliant player who will be immense as he gets more experienced.

    Jansen - was excited to see him play - had heard that a lot of agents were shocked that spurs went for him, that his style would suit a west Brom more than a Spurs. After yesterday I can't disagree. He was way way to easy to mark for the likes of Johnny Evans etc. West Brom has pretty much a back line of 4 centre halfs and a static Jansen did little to threaten. They allowed him to take a touch and turn forced him back out the field. Jansens movement was non existent. Yes he runs a lot but without any real threat. Unless you play ball to his feet every time you get little or nothing from him. Kanes movement was missing. He looked awkward on the ball at times too. The game called out the quicker feet and thought of an inform Son.

    Lamela - was very poor today - very casual in his passing and gave the ball away a lot. Can't fault his effort but needs to be way more clinical in his passing, decision making. Also had a great chance in first have that he dragged wide when a little bit more composure would have helped.

    Wanyama - a beast. Was really impressed with his discipline in front of our defence. Always looking for the ball, very tidy and keeps it simple. Yes he ain't going to thread balls through and open defences but he wins so much ball back and gives it off simple. A real leader too.

    Davies - I thought he was poor. Our weakest link. He looks like a player short on confidence or something. Never looked comfortable taking a touch. Rash clearances and passes. Hard for the winger in front of him to get good passes from him. His positing is also poor. Opposition managers definitely target him.

    Walker - impressive. An absolute winner, even in warm up. He is up and at it. While he didn't get forward as much as usually does he was really good defensively. Won his headers and made some really strong tackles. Again passed it well but needs to really work on crossing. His battle with McLean was very good and really tough.

    Toby - Verts - Dier (when he came on). Toby is a colossus. Huge guy who completely runs the show at the back. His passing range is unreal. He rarely breaks sweat because his reading of the game and positioning are top class. Talks to walker and Verts all day long. Verts on the other hand, yes a good player but not in the same league as Toby. Verts didnt control or instruct Davies which was even more obvious when Toby went off. Dier came in and while they are all good players there was very little cohesiveness. West Brom definitely sensed it and took the game to us more as a result. We had no leader at the back once Toby went off. Diers decision making when going for the ball was very odd. Went for ball he shouldn't and vice versa.

    Others:
    Sissoko - struggled. Strong and eager but very ineffective

    Erikisen - drifted in and out of the game. No doubting his ability when on the ball in tight spaces. Really super some times. But I expected a lot more cutting balls. But given Jansens static nature the west Brom defence wasn't moved around so they stayed tight and ensured quick one twos etc were kept to a minimum. Like I said if Son had started both his and Ali's movement would have killed the west Brom back four allowing the likes of erikisen to make more telling passes.

    Son - only on for a bit but he looks really good. Pace, movement etc. Should have started. I understand the champions league idea but surely the league is the priority. The travelling he did on int break was a lot but so was lamelas.

    Lloris - class act. Positioning, quickness of reaction is unreal. My only complaint is when he sometimes got the ball to feet and west Brom pressed him - he struggled and gave away possession. But top top keeper.

    Dembele - only on for a bit too. But showed is ability. Drove forward with purpose which I felt we lacked the whole game. While wanyama, erikisen etc pass it and show again they did so while all the time in front of a very disciplined west Brom back 4 and mid field. Dembele on the other hand broke the gain line so much. Need him back fit and starting.

    Overall Spurs were completely dominate. First half especially but we did struggle to really break them down in second half. Pulis clever. Pushed his team forward a little, crowded it more. Knew Jansen wasn't good enough to run the channels and allowed spurs to play in front of them all day.

    One thing I really liked about Spurs yesterday was even when they went behind They didn't panic. They looked like a team who believed that another chance would come along if they played as they did. And it did. I would have loved to have seen more width as the full backs for west Brom were really poor individually. But our lack of width combined with a static Jansen ensured there back 4 could stay tight and never truly stretched.

    I was lucky enough to meet a west Brom player in the box after the game. He was shattered and said at half time the west Brom lads couldn't believe how good Spurs were on the ball, the pace of passing etc. But he said in second half given how west Brom set up they felt they could go nick a goal as they did. But he thought Spurs are the real real deal. I agree. He also said that the feeling is around the league is that Spurs are right up there in terms of going for the league.

    A point clawed back in the end. Next stop Bournemouth in the league. Must win.

    Sorry for the long post - but really was great to see Spurs away from home in terms of set up, attitude etc and the park the bus attitude of west brom first half.

    COYS - exciting season continues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭dodgygeezer


    Thanks for taking the time to write such an insightful firsthand account of the match.

    From the above - Getting increasingly worried about Janssen. Davies is a nice lad but so clearly a class below what we need - so rigid in style of play. Also telling re Vertonghen - not as strong a personality as Alderweirald.

    Anyway, 1st of 7 matches in 23 days over with. COYS.


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