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Tenants next door...

  • 05-10-2016 12:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭


    My neighbour has just rented out next door, firstly he got rid of previous tenants who were a lovely family saying he was selling house, he was doing some work to house for a few months but then magically decided to rerent it for much higher rent( perhaps that was his plan all along but he claimed he changed his mind about selling). I'd say his previous tenants could take a case if they knew but don't know if they do and they were here a number of years. Anyway he has decided to rent to a group of lads(oh despair), it appears to me that there is a lot more living there then he said(3 he told me) they keep the curtains closed day and night, it's all a bit bizarre. Anyway so far they are relatively quiet but should it become a problem with noise is there anything I can do on the basis of more living there than there is supposed to be? I know it was rented through an agent so if I've a problem should I contact them or the landlord? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Thestones wrote: »
    My neighbour has just rented out next door, firstly he got rid of previous tenants who were a lovely family saying he was selling house, he was doing some work to house for a few months but then magically decided to rerent it for much higher rent( perhaps that was his plan all along but he claimed he changed his mind about selling). I'd say his previous tenants could take a case if they knew but don't know if they do and they were here a number of years. Anyway he has decided to rent to a group of lads(oh despair), it appears to me that there is a lot more living there then he said(3 he told me) they keep the curtains closed day and night, it's all a bit bizarre. Anyway so far they are relatively quiet but should it become a problem with noise is there anything I can do on the basis of more living there than there is supposed to be? I know it was rented through an agent so if I've a problem should I contact them or the landlord? Thanks

    So, no issues have occurred? Mind your own business maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dollyk


    Maybe they wont be any trouble.
    Had 4 or maybe 6 lads moved in next door to me.
    No problems tbh, and let me know 2 nights before if they were having a party.
    So I had no issues, they worked different shifts, so at any given time there were only 3 there at a time.
    Football matches were a bit loud, lol but I have 4 grown sons so was used to it.
    Maybe they will be the best neighbours you have had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I there a limit on the number of people who can live in a house now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    dollyk wrote: »
    Maybe they wont be any trouble.
    Had 4 or maybe 6 lads moved in next door to me.
    No problems tbh, and let me know 2 nights before if they were having a party.
    So I had no issues, they worked different shifts, so at any given time there were only 3 there at a time.
    Football matches were a bit loud, lol but I have 4 grown sons so was used to it.
    Maybe they will be the best neighbours you have had.

    Yeah hopefully it will be fine, I'm not going to do anything unless they cause problems, there was a bit of noise last night but they are only in a few days so I'll give them the benefit of doubt for now. Just the nature of lads being lads you worry will they be very loud! Thanks


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So they're all lads (oh despair!!!), who keep their curtains/blinds closed to stop nosey parkers (hint hint) from knowing thier comings and goings, they're not loud and you have no issues with them in the gaff.........what is the problem here exactly?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    Seve OB wrote: »
    I there a limit on the number of people who can live in a house now?

    The landlord specifically said it was 3 so if it was 6 perhaps he might want to know? To be honest if it's 10 I don't care as long as they don't wake my kids at night they can do what they like!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Have you tried introducing yourself? Welcoming them to the area etc, finding out a bit about them?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    So they're all lads (oh despair!!!), who keep their curtains/blinds closed to stop nosey parkers (hint hint) from knowing thier comings and goings, they're not loud and you have no issues with them in the gaff.........what is the problem here exactly?

    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭vmb


    What´s the problem with the curtains closed all the day?

    I have mine closed as it is better environment for the projector. Tbf, I don't want people observing my living room when I am resting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Thestones wrote: »
    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all

    But you already said the previous occupants were renting! :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭john kinsella


    Thestones wrote: »
    My neighbour has just rented out next door, firstly he got rid of previous tenants
    Thestones wrote: »
    I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not

    OP you are being ridiculous. Leave them be. If a problem comes up then speak to the landlord at that stage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Thestones wrote: »
    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all

    Yes guys you're being a bit harsh on the OP here. I'd be worried too if a gang of lads moved in next door to me too.

    However, you can never judge, they may work shift work and that's why the curtains are closed and if they do then they are most likely hard working lads who may be noisy once a week or so.

    Don't worry too much until something does happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dollyk


    Thestones wrote: »
    Yeah hopefully it will be fine, I'm not going to do anything unless they cause problems, there was a bit of noise last night but they are only in a few days so I'll give them the benefit of doubt for now. Just the nature of lads being lads you worry will they be very loud! Thanks


    When I had problems in the past with drug dealing, and cars pulling up at all hours, I contacted the owner.
    I have his number, and he knows I wont ring unless there is a problem.
    I doubt landlord, will check how many is there, once he gets his rent.
    If you find they are really loud, and keeping the kids awake, maybe knock
    on and say it, most lads will be ok. heres hoping
    I know how you feel though, houses either side of me rented for years.
    So far so good.;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Musketeer4


    Have you tried introducing yourself? Welcoming them to the area etc, finding out a bit about them?

    Come on, who does this? Are we living in a movie about American suburbia?

    If someone comes to your house in this manner I'd just be thinking they're only being nosey and trying to pump information out of out about who you are, where' you're from and what you're about. People ought to mind their own business.

    An OP if you are noticing that their curtains are closed then you have been nosey trying to discreetly look in their windows. As such, I don't blame them for closing the curtains if this is what they've to deal with.

    Tl;dr Mind your own business op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Thestones wrote: »
    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all

    If there is a problem - and its a big if considering they have just moved in - have a word with them. If the problem persists then the landlord. But the reality is you are expecting to have a problem when you may not have any issue at all.
    It seems that you liked the previous tenants and are bit put out by the fact he has re-rented. By all means the previous tenants may have a case with the fact the landlord changing his tune. But that is between the landlord and the previous tenant - not you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    Seve OB wrote: »
    But you already said the previous occupants were renting! :confused:

    We bought house and moved in, we only crossed over with previous tenants for a brief time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    OP, I understand your situation, I think most people (be it based on personal experience or not) expect the worst case scenario. I wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned about them until there is an actual problem, no point stressing yourself out needlessly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Is that you, Hyacinth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    OP, I understand your situation, I think most people (be it based on personal experience or not) expect the worst case scenario. I wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned about them until there is an actual problem, no point stressing yourself out needlessly.


    Based on what the OP has said, why would most people expect the worst case scenario? The OP hasn't said they have done anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    Thestones wrote: »
    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all

    'Renters'...are you aware that renters are just people that don't happen to have a mortgage yet?

    Would you be so worried if a group of friends had all chipped in to buy a house together and were living next door with the curtains closed?
    Or would they be superior because they have a mortgage, so therefore will clearly conduct themselves in a far more civilised manner...

    Jesus OP get a grip, if they do start making noise then take it up with the LL or agency dealing with same. But surely until something actually does happen, you've better things to be doing with your time than making up scenarios that may or not happen


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Guys, there really is not need for the abuse been thrown at the OP over this post. She simply has a concern.

    Do none of you worry about who has moved in next door to you? Especially if you have children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    pilly wrote: »
    Guys, there really is not need for the abuse been thrown at the OP over this post. She simply has a concern.

    Do none of you worry about who has moved in next door to you? Especially if you have children.

    Of course, if they're actually doing something wrong!
    But these people are not...the OP just sounds like she is judging as they are renting which makes her sound like a snob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    pilly wrote: »
    Guys, there really is not need for the abuse been thrown at the OP over this post. She simply has a concern.

    Do none of you worry about who has moved in next door to you? Especially if you have children.

    Thank you, an actual reasonable post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    It's a bit dramatic to be considering who to complain to, fear for your kids, etc etc before anything actually happens.

    give them the benefit of the doubt. Until something happens, then it's a non issue.

    Speculating and thinking as you do at the moment will only set your mind to believing they are guilty of something that hasn't happened yet or will probably never happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    Of course, if they're actually doing something wrong!
    But these people are not...the OP just sounds like she is judging as they are renting which makes her sound like a snob.

    I don't agree it makes her sound like a snob.

    The only reason she mentions that is because she didn't know whether to contact the landlord or the agent if there was a problem.

    Anyway, OP, there is no need for you to take personal abuse for simply looking for a piece of advice. My tuppence worth if it helps is that if there is a problem, speak to the lads first, just "can you keep the noise down late at night" or whatever. After that if they keep it up you can contact either the landlord or the agent, they're both responsible for making sure that the tenants don't cause a nuisance to neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    pilly wrote: »
    Do none of you worry about who has moved in next door to you? Especially if you have children.

    Yeah, think of the children's :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    pilly wrote: »
    I don't agree it makes her sound like a snob.

    The only reason she mentions that is because she didn't know whether to contact the landlord or the agent if there was a problem.

    Anyway, OP, there is no need for you to take personal abuse for simply looking for a piece of advice. My tuppence worth if it helps is that if there is a problem, speak to the lads first, just "can you keep the noise down late at night" or whatever. After that if they keep it up you can contact either the landlord or the agent, they're both responsible for making sure that the tenants don't cause a nuisance to neighbours.

    Thank you, you are bang on I only mentioned about renters because I didn't know who I should contact if I need to and that really was the only information I needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    Would the OP have opened this tread if it was 3 ladettes who had moved in next door?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    BobPresto wrote: »
    Would the OP have opened this tread if it was 3 ladettes who had moved in next door?

    They probably would be worse!

    Seriously though are you just trying to stir?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    Thestones wrote: »
    They probably would be worse!

    Seriously though are you just trying to stir?!

    This was well stirred be I got here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    pilly wrote: »
    Guys, there really is not need for the abuse been thrown at the OP over this post. She simply has a concern.

    Do none of you worry about who has moved in next door to you? Especially if you have children.

    Its more that she brought up that the tenants are lads.

    Were I to start a thread saying i was fearfull of 4 young women moving in next door just in case they started having raucous out of control ann summers parties, and start building a battlepack of numbers to call, i'd be laughed out of it, and rightly so.

    OP is being nosey and "slightly" overreacting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    BobPresto wrote: »
    This was well stirred be I got here.

    Well think I have sufficient replies/advice/abuse on the topic, I'm 100% informed now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 stanley1989


    Have you tried introducing yourself? Welcoming them to the area etc, finding out a bit about them?

    Lol are you serious !
    That's even worse talk about being nosey.I know exactly where I'd tell you to go
    Typical nosey irish and yes I am irish awell btw just not nosey like the rest of yous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Its more that she brought up that the tenants are lads.

    Were I to start a thread saying i was fearfull of 4 young women moving in next door just in case they started having raucous out of control ann summers parties, and start building a battlepack of numbers to call, i'd be laughed out of it, and rightly so.

    OP is being nosey and "slightly" overreacting.

    Sorry but lads just are louder by nature, not saying that's wrong it just is the way it is generally speaking, same as young lads generally get hammered on car insurance, is it fair? Maybe not but that's life. Im allowed to be a little concerned when a group of young lads move into a very much family estate right next door to me, I've done nothing to them, not reported them to anyone so don't see how I'm being dramatic just asking a question. I'm on my own with kids in house quite a bit when my husband isn't here and it is slightly intimidating knowing there is a bunch of lads next door and they aren't irish so I wouldn't be entirely comfortable knocking on the door and being like 'hey mind keeping it down,?' I've no idea what their English is like or how they would react so I would prefer to know in the event of a problem is it the landlord or agent, that is all really. Not sure why that is so difficult for some posters to grasp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    Thestones wrote: »
    Sorry but lads just are louder by nature, not saying that's wrong it just is the way it is generally speaking, same as young lads generally get hammered on car insurance, is it fair? Maybe not but that's life. Im allowed to be a little concerned when a group of young lads move into a very much family estate right next door to me, I've done nothing to them, not reported them to anyone so don't see how I'm being dramatic just asking a question. I'm on my own with kids in house quite a bit when my husband isn't here and it is slightly intimidating knowing there is a bunch of lads next door and they aren't irish so I wouldn't be entirely comfortable knocking on the door and being like 'hey mind keeping it down,?' I've no idea what their English is like or how they would react so I would prefer to know in the event of a problem is it the landlord or agent, that is all really. Not sure why that is so difficult for some posters to grasp.

    Stop while your ahead OP, please.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    BobPresto wrote: »
    Stop while your ahead OP, please.

    Is it the greeks father?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭BobPresto


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Is it the greeks father?
    feckin' greeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    If there is an admin on here can this thread be closed now? Thank you


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    Scotland's favorite pint Tennents....if only Tennant's drank Carlsberg or is it Heineken ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    I see the pitch forks are out and the sheeple are after a piece of the action too. Pathetic.

    Op, having had a very bad run of renting neighbours behind me, I can understand your concerns when anyone new moves next door.

    I think you may be worrying prematurely, see how you get on with them first. It would do no harm to say hello to them in passing, so if you do have any problems you might be able to chat to them yourself. But until such a time, they have a clean slate and treat them so.

    Someone else mentioned possible shift hours being a reason why they have curtains drawn, but if they aren't Irish this isn't uncommon. It's just a cultural thing, I've noticed a bit.

    In the event that something occurs, and you feel you can't get through to them, then the landlords number is good thing to have. But as I said, say hello when you see them. They might be the nicest guys going :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Thestones wrote: »
    We bought house and moved in, we only crossed over with previous tenants for a brief time.

    As far as i'm aware if the LL put out tenants claiming the house is for sale, doesn't make reasonable effort to sell (a few months sounds dodgy and sounds like he was looking for more rent but could have had his hands tied with new laws) and re-rents it he's obliged to give the previous tenants 1st refusal at the original agreement,rent,etc.

    If the previous tenants get wind of this the LL could have an illegal eviction case on his/her hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭vmb


    I know that is a little bit OT.

    But what´s the matter with the curtains? Do the people have to be visible trough their windows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    As far as i'm aware if the LL put out tenants claiming the house is for sale, doesn't make reasonable effort to sell (a few months sounds dodgy and sounds like he was looking for more rent but could have had his hands tied with new laws) and re-rents it he's obliged to give the previous tenants 1st refusal at the original agreement,rent,etc.

    If the previous tenants get wind of this the LL could have an illegal eviction case on his/her hands.

    He never even put it on the market, just had it empty a few months. Anyway that's not my concern and I don't even have the previous tenants contact but they may well get wind from one of the other neighbours as they made friends with a few of them over the years I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭toptom


    vmb wrote: »
    I know that is a little bit OT.

    But what´s the matter with the curtains? Do the people have to be visible trough their windows?

    Could be using drugs you see, Maybe their eye pupils cant take the light


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭chillin117


    Thestones wrote: »
    Christ I only asked if there is a problem who should I contact! I've never actually lived beside renters before believe it or not so not sure what one does if noise does become an issue! That's all

    ''I've never actually lived beside renters before'' ? Have they gone Feral ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    OP got their answer. Thread closed.


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