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Current vs Predicted charging costs

  • 02-10-2016 7:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭


    NB: Not an EV user yet, but hope to be next year.

    Browsing through some Fully Charged episodes on youtube I came across this:


    As I understand it eCars provide the FCPs for free here now but is it likely that we'll see a significant charge if/when they start? £6/30mins is pretty steep depending on your EVs charge rate.

    Sorry if this has been covered before,
    ED-E


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭isnottheword


    They already proposed charges but the CER put a freeze on that. LINK

    Its too early to introduce charges here - as there are only 2% EVs on the road. They will have to hold off for a while or else they wont have any chance of reaching anywhere near targets.

    On the flip side we re looking at ev ranges increasing on newer models - so public chargers may not be as a big of a deal soon (at least for those that can install a home charger).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    ED E wrote: »
    NB: Not an EV user yet, but hope to be next year.

    Browsing through some Fully Charged episodes on youtube I came across this:


    As I understand it eCars provide the FCPs for free here now but is it likely that we'll see a significant charge if/when they start? £6/30mins is pretty steep depending on your EVs charge rate.

    Sorry if this has been covered before,
    ED-E
    Those are for ecotricity which are UK based. They tried to introduce charging at the beginning of the year here. The pricing structure was pretty ridiculous. There was a subscription fee as well as payments per use of FCPs. We made quite a lot of noise about it and it then turned out they hadn't properly consulted with the CER. So its on on hold while the consulation process is happening.
    Maybe we'll hear something more conclusive after the budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Thanks for the info lads.

    I'm looking at 120KM range but due to tenancy limitations a high reliance on public FCPs. Hopefully for round two the numbers come out much lower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    ED E wrote: »
    Thanks for the info lads.

    I'm looking at 120KM range but due to tenancy limitations a high reliance on public FCPs. Hopefully for round two the numbers come out much lower.

    The realities are that any attempt to commercialise chargers with less then 2000 EVs on the road would be farcical . Any rational examination would suggest that at least several more years of free charging are required to build numbers. In addition the pathetic reliability of the charger network needs to be sorted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Caillte


    I would love an EV (Leaf) but the outright expense is too much even with the €5000 SEAI Grant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Caillte wrote: »
    I would love an EV (Leaf) but the outright expense is too much even with the €5000 SEAI Grant.

    Everyone has their budget and if you cant buy new you should be able to get a decent one 2-3yrs old for good money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    Caillte wrote: »
    I would love an EV (Leaf) but the outright expense is too much even with the €5000 SEAI Grant.

    There's plenty of really good examples at great prices second hand. Look at the UK also. No vrt on import and really low running costs means you'll easily find one that would be overall cheaper than a comparable ice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Caillte


    Elon Musk said recently that they hope to roll out their free FCP system across UK and Ireland over the newxt few years. All we need now are Tesla Car sales here and bucket loads of cash.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Current 24 Kwh Leaf will need to be close to a charge point by 110 Kms, maybe 130 driving a bit slower.

    I highly advise to get a leaf with the 6.6 Kw charger, it means a lot less trips to fast chargers and a lot less waiting around.

    A Renault Zoe can charge to 80% in 1 hour from the standard street chargers V about 3 for the Leaf 6.6 kwh. You need to lease the battery on the Zoe but it's got a really good on board charger, 44 Kw. It can still charge at fast chargers and not only that but most of them allow you to charge a Zoe while a Leaf is charging, or anyone using the DC side.

    If depending on public charging the Zoe is definitely worth considering.


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