Boy racer neighbours

corks finest

Hi,interested to see if any one here knows the law on noise from souped up bangers late at night,new neighbours and those staying at theirs,all drive these noisy wrecks,in garrydhu drive,carrigaline,Mitsubishie,toyota c etc,,but cars coming and going,all hours,and as we live in a dead end,,noise from these exhausts and engines are disturbing us with young kids,tnx in advance

Skyfarm

corks finest wrote: »

Hi,interested to see if any one here knows the law on noise from souped up bangers late at night,new neighbours and those staying at theirs,all drive these noisy wrecks,in garrydhu drive,carrigaline,Mitsubishie,toyota c etc,,but cars coming and going,all hours,and as we live in a dead end,,noise from these exhausts and engines are disturbing us with young kids,tnx in advance

If i was you ,i would take down any details that might identify you or where you live,they as like anybody else have every right to be on the road should they pay tax and insurance,you might not like it but its the law.

rather than look for laws ,how about a gentle knock on their door and welcoming them to garrydhu estate? and in the course of the next few days visits to just say ,"hey lads/lassies any chance you keep the revs down going in and out?

try to avoid the "your an enemy " route ,as I'm sure that won't work out as well as the "kill it with kindness route"

last resort is guards..

corks finest

Good idea,

corks finest

corks finest wrote: »

Good idea,

Reason I mentioned address,was in the hope ,they being car enthusiasts,pribably are on boards motoring forums,and that they,or someone they know might spot this,and common,also there are laws ref noise

Bigus

Traffic corps don't like noisey cars and have db test equipment on board to put these lads in their place by seizing cars.

Henry Ford III

Was one of the cars a white BMW?

H3llR4iser

To be honest, as much as I despise those fartcan exhausts, if they're within the legal limit I don't know what could be done...some vehicles emit very audible, penetrating sounds even at idle.

Years ago I had a neighbour who drove an Harley Davidson - it was his only transport, he had no car nor a different bike/scooter. He worked shifts so he often came home in the heat of the night - now anybody who's ever heard an Harley Davidson bike, knows what I'm getting at. Even when he was idling, waiting for the gate to open, the sound was well able to make windows vibrate.

Everywone in the building went up in arms against him, but there wasn't really much that could be done...

savagethegoat

H3llR4iser wrote: »

To be honest, as much as I despise those fartcan exhausts, if they're within the legal limit I don't know what could be done...some vehicles emit very audible, penetrating sounds even at idle.

Years ago I had a neighbour who drove an Harley Davidson - it was his only transport, he had no car nor a different bike/scooter. He worked shifts so he often came home in the heat of the night - now anybody who's ever heard an Harley Davidson bike, knows what I'm getting at. Even when he was idling, waiting for the gate to open, the sound was well able to make windows vibrate.

Everywone in the building went up in arms against him, but there wasn't really much that could be done...

that noise I wouldn't mind , it's the cars that have deliberately been made noisy in the mistaken belief that noise = power that I despise.

jimbis

Get chatting to them, admire there car and ask a few questions about it. Basically let them know your not some badgering oul moany fart. Then ask them can they keep the revs down late at night for the kids sake.

Despite the stereotype, most 'boy racers' are genuine nice people and have respect for everyone, especially if you have respect for them (like any walk of life).
You could also look at the plus side of it, if them lads get to know you and there moving on the road at all hours it's a great neighbourhood watch you have going for yourself.

Del2005

H3llR4iser wrote: »

To be honest, as much as I despise those fartcan exhausts, if they're within the legal limit I don't know what could be done...some vehicles emit very audible, penetrating sounds even at idle.

Years ago I had a neighbour who drove an Harley Davidson - it was his only transport, he had no car nor a different bike/scooter. He worked shifts so he often came home in the heat of the night - now anybody who's ever heard an Harley Davidson bike, knows what I'm getting at. Even when he was idling, waiting for the gate to open, the sound was well able to make windows vibrate.

Everywone in the building went up in arms against him, but there wasn't really much that could be done...

He could have put a road legal exhaust on.

Most bike exhausts have a removable baffle for track use. On my last bike I couldn't ride it with the baffle out due to the noise whereas a friend with a different bike never used their baffle and it was fine, both where 4 cylinders. Haven't taken the baffle out of the current bike as I assumed it would be loud, big powerful V twin, but another friend has the same engine in their bike and its not loud with the baffle out, they have a different can to me so mine could still be too loud.

bazz26

You would imagine if this group in particular were in anyway nice or genuine that they would use a bit of common sense and would refrain from making a racket late at night. You shouldn't have to become their friend just to reassure them you're not an old fart looking to get an uninterrupted night's sleep.

Atlantic Dawn

Do they have valid NCT's? Put the reg numbers in to www.ncts.ie to see.

ironclaw

Where I grew up, we had a group of guys and girls who loved Harleys. They used roll them down the hill and kick start them at the end of the estate. Never an issue and they all worked very early shifts. Its amazing the consideration some people have and then complete ignorance others to. I'd bet a large sum of money they haven't even thought about the noise and neighbors, few people extend their thought process beyond themselves and its becoming increasingly common e.g. Best place for a conversation? Shop door, middle of corridor or escalator ramp.

The mind boggles.

Special Circumstances

ironclaw wrote: »

few people extend their thought process beyond themselves and its becoming increasingly common e.g. Best place for a conversation? Shop door, middle of corridor or escalator ramp.

The mind boggles.

In my mind an especially painful circle of hell is reserved for people who choose doorways to talk sh1te in.

JBokeh

Not a whole lot that can be done, the exhausts can be below the legal limit, but still be incredibly piercing or just the right frequency to make windows reverberate. Whatever you do don't go over moaning about it to them, when I was a young fella if we knew we could upset someone, we would end up doing it more.

My bike scrapes by the noise tests when revved up in neutral, but it would probably break the machine if they tested it under acceleration, the woman at the end of my boreen loves it, she stands out in the garden waving with both her hands whenever I pass, but I can't hear what she is saying over the noise of my bike :pac:

corks finest

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Was one of the cars a white BMW?

Na,white celicia,red banger,light blue mitisbiushi,and some other contraption,, as I write,after 1.10 (after midnight)one woke me,man/woman raring at each other,and of course car revving for a while,then Mr clown takes off ,hope it stops soon,but doubt it

corks finest

JBokeh wrote: »

Not a whole lot that can be done, the exhausts can be below the legal limit, but still be incredibly piercing or just the right frequency to make windows reverberate. Whatever you do don't go over moaning about it to them, when I was a young fella if we knew we could upset someone, we would end up doing it more.

My bike scrapes by the noise tests when revved up in neutral, but it would probably break the machine if they tested it under acceleration, the woman at the end of my boreen loves it, she stands out in the garden waving with both her hands whenever I pass, but I can't hear what she is saying over the noise of my bike :pac:

Yep,no intention of going over,was thinking of it,but after I heard them roaring and fighting,I'm contacting Cluid housing Monday morning,we have a fairly pro active housing officer,who might have a word

Mongfinder General

If the registration plates on a car were to suddenely blow away in the middle of the night I think the police would obliged to confiscate the vehicle

James Bond Junior

Leave a box of nails poured out on the road. Warn the neighbours and sweep them up in the morning.

job seeker

JBokeh wrote: »

Not a whole lot that can be done, the exhausts can be below the legal limit, but still be incredibly piercing or just the right frequency to make windows reverberate. Whatever you do don't go over moaning about it to them, when I was a young fella if we knew we could upset someone, we would end up doing it more.

My bike scrapes by the noise tests when revved up in neutral, but it would probably break the machine if they tested it under acceleration, the woman at the end of my boreen loves it, she stands out in the garden waving with both her hands whenever I pass, but I can't hear what she is saying over the noise of my bike :pac:

"please be quiet"

*you think he might stop when I wave*

job seeker

Op as others stated: There is little that could be done in terms of the law..

I do think calling over and been the good guy is better than going over given out..

job seeker

bazz26 wrote: »

You would imagine if this group in particular were in anyway nice or genuine that they would use a bit of common sense and would refrain from making a racket late at night. You shouldn't have to become their friend just to reassure them you're not an old fart looking to get an uninterrupted night's sleep.

True, but do you think that they are even aware that they're keeping people awake at night.. I'm not sure, if I'm honest..

GIMP

H3llR4iser wrote: »

To be honest, as much as I despise those fartcan exhausts, if they're within the legal limit I don't know what could be done...some vehicles emit very audible, penetrating sounds even at idle.

Years ago I had a neighbour who drove an Harley Davidson - it was his only transport, he had no car nor a different bike/scooter. He worked shifts so he often came home in the heat of the night - now anybody who's ever heard an Harley Davidson bike, knows what I'm getting at. Even when he was idling, waiting for the gate to open, the sound was well able to make windows vibrate.

Everywone in the building went up in arms against him, but there wasn't really much that could be done...

I remember that bike, jesus it was loud, around Station Way. Wanted to kill that fella numerous times!!

s14driftking

Speaking as someone that has in the past had noisy cars and still do albeit not on the road take the sensible approach and don't go in all guns blazing. Most car guys are reasonable and understand and will try keep them quiet if asked nicely. Gobin all guns blazing shouting and roaring likely hood is it will get worst.

corks finest

s14driftking wrote: »

Speaking as someone that has in the past had noisy cars and still do albeit not on the road take the sensible approach and don't go in all guns blazing. Most car guys are reasonable and understand and will try keep them quiet if asked nicely. Gobin all guns blazing shouting and roaring likely hood is it will get worst.

There's ppl who one can talk to,and others who simply don't give a damm,these clowns are in the latter,housing association area,24 cluid houses,surround by 75 plus council,plus affordable houses,so being blunt it's rough at times,trying to get out,those in charge put a huge mishmash of ppl here,recipe for disaster,supposed to be one woman,2kids there,but there's at least 5 adults,young twenties,add drink etc to the equation,and of course there's going to be noise,hassle etc,its a small example of bad government,local council planning,my kids are being kept awake at times ,and so its not good enough,sorry for ranting (I've 9 grandkids,so well used to teens etc,but this crap,not fair)

Skyfarm

corks finest wrote: »

There's ppl who one can talk to,and others who simply don't give a damm,these clowns are in the latter,housing association area,24 cluid houses,surround by 75 plus council,plus affordable houses,so being blunt it's rough at times,trying to get out,those in charge put a huge mishmash of ppl here,recipe for disaster,supposed to be one woman,2kids there,but there's at least 5 adults,young twenties,add drink etc to the equation,and of course there's going to be noise,hassle etc,its a small example of bad government,local council planning,my kids are being kept awake at times ,and so its not good enough,sorry for ranting (I've 9 grandkids,so well used to teens etc,but this crap,not fair)

I would urge you to consider taking down details of estate,culid,and that last post,simply because its reading to me like its the whole arera your having a problem with,

how about putting that negative energy you feel into a postive action,could you start a residents group?

a gardening club to manage pathways etc? somthing to make "everybody" inculded

you can do somthing about it instead of blaming everybody and everything


if i was your neighbours reading this thread i would not be happy

OldMrBrennan83

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corks finest

Skyfarm wrote: »

I would urge you to consider taking down details of estate,culid,and that last post,simply because its reading to me like its the whole arera your having a problem with,

how about putting that negative energy you feel into a postive action,could you start a residents group?

a gardening club to manage pathways etc? somthing to make "everybody" inculded

you can do somthing about it instead of blaming everybody and everything


if i was your neighbours reading this thread i would not be happy

That's exactly why I wrote this,we had a vibrant neighbour hood group,litter picking etc,but ppl got fed up,lost interest,on a positive note there are lots of good ppl here,fyi,when something is wring,its wrong,other neighbours have been complaining,up to last night i was trying to live with it,but enough,when my kids ate interrupted from their sleep,its not on,like it,ir lump it,,,I'm a responsible neighbour,not perfect,but I dont cause hassle,noise,do pick up litter,be courteous,help my immediate neighbours,just want to live in relativepeace

Skyfarm

Patww79 wrote: »

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That's all you took from my post? Why are you thinking ahead to an event that hasnt taken place so you can write a reply to,i had to check i was in motor forum for a second i thought i was in conspiracy forum..:D

i would glady take anything down in any thread if requested

corks finest

Skyfarm wrote: »

That's all you took from my post? Why are you thinking ahead to an event that hasnt taken place so you can write a reply to,i had to check i was in motor forum for a second i thought i was in conspiracy forum..:D

i would glady take anything down in any thread if requested

Thanks to all for constructive advice,and help,we're all different,thank God,and hopefully all will get better,I've got a solution ,waiting till 8 0C tonight for it LOTTO

bazz26

job seeker wrote: »

True, but do you think that they are even aware that they're keeping people awake at night.. I'm not sure, if I'm honest..

Maybe I just gave them too much credit in using some common sense.

corks finest

bazz26 wrote: »

Maybe I just gave them too much credit in using some common sense.

Maybe,but then again ,when u come into a dead end at after 1.15,middle of the night to me,fighting,roaring etc,don't think they give a ****e about whi they're disturbing

Special Circumstances

corks finest wrote: »

Maybe,but then again ,when u come into a dead end at after 1.15,middle of the night to me,fighting,roaring etc,don't think they give a ****e about whi they're disturbing

Pretty trashy behaviour without bringing loud cars into it at all. Pointless engaging with the likes of that IMHO.

bazz26

corks finest wrote: »

Maybe,but then again ,when u come into a dead end at after 1.15,middle of the night to me,fighting,roaring etc,don't think they give a ****e about whi they're disturbing

Your preaching to the choir here, I totally agree with you. I was just replying to jobseeker's question to me that they may not be aware they are keeping people awake with their late night antics.

Unfortunately you're not dealing with rational people so having a civilised conversation with them will probably be a waste of your time and effort. Of course expect the usual bleeding hearts to come along soon who will tell you that you should mind your own business and don't be a busy body.

job seeker

bazz26 wrote: »

Maybe I just gave them too much credit in using some common sense.

That's probably it. I do think though, that if the op confronts these individuals in a non-hostile manner. there is more of a chance that they may agree to keep down the revs and have a bit of consideration for the OP. than if he went in with all guns blazing...

corks finest

bazz26 wrote: »

Your preaching to the choir here, I totally agree with you. I was just replying to jobseeker's question to me that they may not be aware they are keeping people awake with their late night antics.

Unfortunately you're not dealing with rational people so having a civilised conversation with them will probably be a waste of your time and effort. Of course expect the usual bleeding hearts to come along soon who will tell you that you should mind your own business and don't be a busy body.

Agree

Giacomo McGubbin

If you think you have to explain to a grown adult, how and why not to be anti social, you are wasting your time.

corks finest

job seeker wrote: »

That's probably it. I do think though, that if the op confronts these individuals in a non-hostile manner. there is more of a chance that they may agree to keep down the revs and have a bit of consideration for the OP. than if he went in with all guns blazing...

Think it's happening a lot,might just be the ways things are now,but coming originally from an area where everyone worked,generally neighbours looked out for each other,maybe I'm just an old fart,but think parts of cork,are gone to hell

job seeker

Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »

If you think you have to explain to a grown adult, how and why not to be anti social, you are wasting your time.

I disagree, This is a different generation we're talking about here. social maybe. But I'd be inclined to give them a chance first. Because well, there are some genuine 20 - 29 year olds out there..

job seeker

corks finest wrote: »

Think it's happening a lot,might just be the ways things are now,but coming originally from an area where everyone worked,generally neighbours looked out for each other,maybe I'm just an old fart,but think parts of cork,are gone to hell

But that's just it, times have changed drastically in the last 40 years in this Irish subculture. While I do agree that every county does have it's areas which should be avoided at certain times of night. I don't think everyone's bad. There is still good people out there in this day and age. However from reading some of the comments it seems people are painting this type of person with the same brush. That is exactly why I'd give them a chance first. They may just be genuine...

corks finest

Update on above,cluid housing officer called to the boy racer momma ,had words,miraclously 4 of the bangers have disappeared,the mechanical works,noise ,revving,boom blasting have stopped,thank For,makes one wonder,do people really need to be spoken to/made aware of their social responsibility,?anyway thanks for all advice,from all