Timing belt Ford Focus

carolinej

hi, I have a 2012 Focus, 1.6 TDCI, 110,000KM on the clock. I rang the main ford dealer I bought it from in Aug 2015 and he said the timing belt doesn't need to be changed till 200,000KM or 10 years whichever is first. Is this right? I alway's thought the belt should be changed at 100,000km.
Reason I haven't changed it already is the salesman last year told us the tb is to be changed at 150,000km, now their service dept is saying 200,000km...arrrgh....... My FIL is a mechanic and he said he's never seen a belt last till 200,000km and he always changed at 100,000km.

shietpilot

For a Mk3 Focus 1.6 TDCI:

Timing belt change interval
up to 2011/07 every 140,000 km / 10 years
from 2011/08 every 180,000 km / 10 years

This is taken directly from TecDoc.

marvin80

Apologies to OP, jumping in with a similar query.

I have a 05 1.4 petrol Focus (old shape), timing belt was done at 149,000km in September 2013, I'm at 219,000km now and was wondering is the timing belt due a change?

I've looked it up online and got different answers.

AnCatDubh

carolinej wrote: »

I rang the main ford dealer I bought it from in Aug 2015 and he said the timing belt doesn't need to be changed till 200,000KM or 10 years whichever is first.

A while back, I had the same answer when enquiring about a 2006 1.6TDCi focus. 200k kms or 10 years. Have you the service/owners manual? I don't have that car anymore, but I think in the owner/service manual was the service schedule and what needed to be replaced and when.

martinr5232

2012 1.6 tdci focus every 180,000 km or ten years.

2006 1.6 tdci focus every 200,000 km or ten years.

The_B_Man

Funnily enough, my 2006 Focus (1.4 MKII) is due a service next week. Ten years old now. I wonder will they check the belt as part of the service or will I have to tell them to check it. Or should I just go ahead and get it replaced either way?

Is there anything else I should get replaced while they're digging down there?

martinr5232

The_B_Man wrote:

Funnily enough, my 2006 Focus (1.4 MKII) is due a service next week. Ten years old now. I wonder will they check the belt as part of the service or will I have to tell them to check it. Or should I just go ahead and get it replaced either way?

Belt on a 1.4 focus is now 8 year or 160,000 interval now.
Water pump should be replaced aswell.

The_B_Man

martinr5232 wrote: »

Belt on a 1.4 focus is now 8 year or 160,000 interval now.
Water pump should be replaced aswell.

8 years? Jaysus so it shoulda been done 2 years ago? The cars only got about 85k kms so the belt might still have some life in it.

martinr5232

The_B_Man wrote:

8 years? Jaysus so it shoulda been done 2 years ago? The cars only got about 85k kms so the belt might still have some life in it.

Yeah ford revised intervals a while ago.

bazz26

The_B_Man wrote: »

8 years? Jaysus so it shoulda been done 2 years ago? The cars only got about 85k kms so the belt might still have some life in it.

The belt is made of rubber which wears with time as well as use, it's the reason they put both a time and mileage interval on them so whichever comes first. It's not worth playing russian roulette with the cost of having to replace or rebuild an entire engine versus the cost of a new belt and water pump.

The_B_Man

Ah right. Fair enough.

Should I ring them in advance and tell them it'll need the timing belt and water pump replaced, or should I just tell them on the day of the service? It's an official Ford garage so they should have the parts.

bazz26

Seems mad bringing a 10 year old car to a main dealer for servicing. Have you priced the work from a reputable independent garage?

The_B_Man

bazz26 wrote: »

Seems mad bringing a 10 year old car to a main dealer for servicing. Have you priced the work from a reputable independent garage?

I know. Last year's one cost me about 500, but I needed the rear speakers replaced and wanted to make sure I got official parts.
This time if I'm getting the timing belt changed, I'd imagine that's a big job and something that I'd prefer to get done from an official dealer/mechanic as well.

Sure the gf's da would probably change me oil for me if I asked. I reckon that's all they do in the service anyway. Might go that route from now on and save meself the €199!! You know a good mechanic around the long mile area??

carolinej

hi, sorry for dragging up an old thread again but I asked a question last Sept about timing belt interval on my 2012 ford focus and was advised it's 180,000km / 10 years and main dealer said 150,000km.

So now my car is at 118,000km and so I'll be getting it changed soon (I'd rather err on the side of caution and do it sooner rather than later)

My OH said he'd prefer to do TB and Water pump at the same time.

The main dealer quoted me €450 for TM change only. He said there's no need to do the water pump and anyways they'd check all that on the day.

That's all well and good but I can't just come up with the extra money that fast if they say yeah we suggest you change the water pump aswell.

So, I would like others opinions / views as to whether the Water pump should be changed at the same time or will I take what the main dealer says as gospel?

thanks

Mary63

A pal was told her timing belt needed changing and it would cost 650 euros.She said no way am I paying that and carried on, she just did what was needed to pass the NCT.

She got into her car two days later and there was a big bang, car was a complete write off, it was maybe ten years old so would have been worth four thousand on a trade in.Lesson learned, I am sticking to Toyota.

George Dalton

If it was my car I would definitely do the pump as well. If you shop around you will get the whole job done at an independent garage for under €400 including the pump.

martinr5232

carolinej wrote:

My OH said he'd prefer to do TB and Water pump at the same time.

As George said i wouldnt do a belt without doing the pump most times i have replaced a belt on one of those its because the pump is leaking.

hellyeah

the brother just got his 2011 1.6tdci focus done last week.
at 150klm. Belt, pump , aux belt , brake pads coolant for 635 euro at main ford dealer.
expensive but worth the peace of mind.

carolinej

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. I'm certainly not skirting doing the timing belt. I'd rather it done now. It's a 2012 car, not chancing it. I'm even nervous that I'm driving her at 118,000km even though ford say she's ok till 180,000km.

I know a local garage I will give him a buzz for price. I know the parts to buy ourseves ie timing belt, tensioner and w pump are €194 locally and OH can do it but he prefer to get a garage to do it as it's a relatively new car to us. if anything went wrong it's covered by garage (I hope!)

punisher5112

carolinej wrote: »

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. I'm certainly not skirting doing the timing belt. I'd rather it done now. It's a 2012 car, not chancing it. I'm even nervous that I'm driving her at 118,000km even though ford say she's ok till 180,000km.

I know a local garage I will give him a buzz for price. I know the parts to buy ourseves ie timing belt, tensioner and w pump are €194 locally and OH can do it but he prefer to get a garage to do it as it's a relatively new car to us. if anything went wrong it's covered by garage (I hope!)

They are well able to do more then 118k if you remember they use to have 100k miles as change so new intervals aren't far off it.

If you drive the car hard and are extremely rough with it yeah change early but no way needs doing so soon. Safe yourself the few quid for at least another 30k.

carolinej

punisher5112 wrote: »

They are well able to do more then 118k if you remember they use to have 100k miles as change so new intervals aren't far off it.

If you drive the car hard and are extremely rough with it yeah change early but no way needs doing so soon. Safe yourself the few quid for at least another 30k.

I'm just off the phone to the local main dealer and he said Ford reccommend interval of 180,000km and Ford say you don't need to change water pump but anyway's he going to get back to me with a price for the TB & pump. Deep breath!!!

I suppose I'm panicing incase God Forbid anything happens. A friend bought a lovely 08 Octavia recently and didn't the belt bust last week. They rang the seller (private, DD) who said it was done and they've to bring it to garage that changed it as something has failed in belt change. Some dose

martinr5232

carolinej wrote:

I know a local garage I will give him a buzz for price. I know the parts to buy ourseves ie timing belt, tensioner and w pump are €194 locally and OH can do it but he prefer to get a garage to do it as it's a relatively new car to us. if anything went wrong it's covered by garage (I hope!)

Where abouts are you someone might be able to reccommend someone.

kerten

carolinej wrote: »

I'm just off the phone to the local main dealer and he said Ford reccommend interval of 180,000km and Ford say you don't need to change water pump but anyway's he going to get back to me with a price for the TB & pump. Deep breath!!!

I suppose I'm panicing incase God Forbid anything happens. A friend bought a lovely 08 Octavia recently and didn't the belt bust last week. They rang the seller (private, DD) who said it was done and they've to bring it to garage that changed it as something has failed in belt change. Some dose

Changing timing belt when you buy a used car is good if you are not certain about history of scheduled changes but in your case an inservicable part of the engine is far from its first schedule in meaning of time and mileage both.

No need to panic now. Your chances of timing belt failure in this car for another 30-40k is next to nothing unless car is being heavily abused daily.

osh

So would 390 be a fair price for replacing the timing belt and water pump? Mines at about 200k and not sure if it's been replaced yet, so have been thinking of getting it done.

punisher5112

osh wrote: »

So would 390 be a fair price for replacing the timing belt and water pump? Mines at about 200k and not sure if it's been replaced yet, so have been thinking of getting it done.

Get it checked out right away.

That price is very fair.

Some of the newer models have two belts also so be aware one wet one dry.

enumbers

punisher5112 wrote: »

Get it checked out right away.

That price is very fair.

Some of the newer models have two belts also so be aware one wet one dry.

wet belt is the 1.8tdci started around 2008 went from chain to belt these do need to be changed early as they have a very bad habit of failing early

punisher5112

enumbers wrote: »

wet belt is the 1.8tdci started around 2008 went from chain to belt these do need to be changed early as they have a very bad habit of failing early

Correct.

martinr5232

enumbers wrote:

wet belt is the 1.8tdci started around 2008 went from chain to belt these do need to be changed early as they have a very bad habit of failing early

Anything with a build date after 10/2007 has a wet belt.

osh

Grand I'll get it done I guess. It's just a 2005 model.

Was hoping it might have been done when I bought it as I had thought it needed to be replaced after 10 years/160k. No sign that it was though.

carolinej

Me again, just wondering is the timing belt driving the water pump on the 2012 1.6 diesal model. Thanks.

George Dalton

It is yes.

carolinej

George Dalton wrote: »

It is yes.

OK. Have two prices from main dealer , €420 for timing belt only. €650 for timing belt and pump. Probably better to get TB and water pump done together so, despite garage telling me the w lump don't necessarily need to be changed at same time unless needed.

punisher5112

carolinej wrote: »

OK. Have two prices from main dealer , €420 for timing belt only. €650 for timing belt and pump. Probably better to get TB and water pump done together so, despite garage telling me the w lump don't necessarily need to be changed at same time unless needed.

Get a Indy garage to do it. Ford will be much more as you see.

nogiggity

Thought i'd hijack this thread as it seems to have more traction than mine.
Any words of wisdom for in my case? 2008 1.6 TDCI . Belt was done at 50k , then at 90k in 2011 (I bought the car a few months ago. For some reason 2 mechanics I spoke to recommended replacing every 50k??

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108538942

monkeyslayer

I'd mine done for the first time at 105k, its ten years and 100k as as far as I know, whichever comes first

martinr5232

nogiggity wrote:

Thought i'd hijack this thread as it seems to have more traction than mine. Any words of wisdom for in my case? 2008 1.6 TDCI . Belt was done at 50k , then at 90k in 2011 (I bought the car a few months ago. For some reason 2 mechanics I spoke to recommended replacing every 50k??

Have you proof it was changed like invoices ?? If not and you intend keeping it maybe it would be wise to replace it for peace of mind. As far as i can remember the interval is 180k km or ten years.

nogiggity

martinr5232 wrote: »

Have you proof it was changed like invoices ?? If not and you intend keeping it maybe it would be wise to replace it for peace of mind. As far as i can remember the interval is 180k km or ten years.

Yes. Intervals were written in the service history book .

topper75

Was getting my 2010 diesel focus serviced there last year and asked about timing belt. Mech said 199,000 miles or 10 years. Surprised at that, as a lot of barstoolers were advising me it was much earlier.

Just dropped in now for belt replacement, right on 199,000. She is going reasonably well. Pretty OK car with regular servicing. I have a hatred of modern cars though. I used to have a Starlet - if they only made it slightly bigger - that was one great little piece of straightforward engineering. Its Yaris replacement was a runt.