ambulance explosion

fepper

In naas,one dead

Gatling

Details ?

bobbysands81

An ambulance has caught fire and a man has died at Naas General Hospital according to a tweet on Twitter.

The Journal are reporting it.

http://www.thejournal.ie/naas-fire-2991450-Sep2016/

Sam Kade

A dead poster :eek:

Shlippery

http://www.thejournal.ie/naas-fire-2991450-Sep2016/

First link I saw..

Shocking story.

GLaDOS

Christ that's horrible. Hopefully the two medics aren't badly injured.

failinis

I presume oxygen tank exploded or something?
Horrible - I hope the 2 injured paramedics will fully recover.
Poor patient.

Kermit.de.frog

Shoddy or dated equipment? Is it true some of our ambulances are second hand from uk?

Gatling

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Shoddy or dated equipment? Is it true some of our ambulances are second hand from uk?

Not necessarily true at all ,,

Oxygen rich enclosed space mixed with a spark or heat source

fepper

Sam Kade wrote: »

A dead poster :eek:

Not very respectful here,are we?

Sam Kade

fepper wrote: »

Not very respectful here,are we?

It was more to do with your lack of information

whiskeyman

Jesus... reports saying it was a patient.
Imagine that poor persons family. Thinking they are now in the best of care and for this tragedy to occur.
I'm sure everyone working at the hospital is shocked too. Hope those paramedics pull through ok.
There'll be an investigation no doubt, but our thoughts have to be with those affected now

Larbre34

fepper wrote: »

Not very respectful here,are we?

A very pr1ckish thing to say, hope he never knows bereavement. RIP to the poor man.

If this turns out to be a maintenance or an age of equipment issue, there shall be war. Perhaps just a tragic accident in a vehicle that carries dangerous materials. Terrible in any case.

fepper

Sam Kade wrote: »

It was more to do with your lack of information

You're obviously ignorant on facts

ThisRegard

Larbre34 wrote: »

A very pr1ckish thing to say, hope he never knows bereavement. RIP to the poor man.

He said nothing offensive, but people are looking to be offended on behalf of the persons family. The poster said "I is dead", it was an off the cuff response to that and harmless.

Everyone in the world has known bereavement.

Galadriel

fepper wrote: »

You're obviously ignorant on facts

Of course he's ignorant to the facts if you don't supply any facts!

Kermit.de.frog

Larbre34 wrote: »

If this turns out to be a maintenance or an age of equipment issue, there shall be war.

Pay should be cut to spend on infrastructure and equipment.

fepper

ThisRegard wrote: »

He said nothing offensive, but people are looking to be offended on behalf of the persons family. The poster said "I is dead", it was an off the cuff response to that and harmless.

Everyone in the world has known bereavement.

I wrote the number one,big difference from yourI

gctest50

Who's the cretin with the lighter in the video ?

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/video-patient-dies-after-ambulance-11923970

1x cretin :

https://i.imgur.com/3oBVBHV.jpg

She knows him :

https://i.imgur.com/ydxVE5G.jpg

The flying mouse

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Pay should be cut to spend on infrastructure and equipment.

That will work :rolleyes:;)

Galadriel

The flying mouse wrote: »

That will work :rolleyes:;)

Yeah, so two paramedics injured in the course of their daily duties should have their pay reduced so it doesn't happen again, that will work alright. :eek:

Gatling

What has cutbacks got to do with an incident that we have zero facts about

Mr. CooL ICE

Mod:

Cut out the bickering. An off the cuff remark was made referencing a typo. That is all.

Remember, we don't have any detailed information regarding what has happened just yet. Please remember that friends and family of the deceased and injured may be reading this thread, so keep it respectful.

ThisRegard

fepper wrote: »

I wrote the number one,big difference from yourI

Are you sure it wasn't an 'I' before it was edited, that's how I read it and the reason for that response by the other poster to you. There was no malice.

fepper

I typed in number 1 not letter l or I ,if the two lookalike,cant do anything bout that,it was not typo error mod,but it doesn't take away from awful incident that I opened thread

childsplay

I would imagine that a spark ignited oxygen. A freak accident would be my guess. The backs of ambulances are full of equipment and a spark could have come from there. Static electricity from a piece of cloth. Either way, Its an awful thing and my thoughts are with the families of the deceased and the ambulance crew.

Atoms for Peace

What's the story with yer man with the lighter.

Gatling

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What's the story with yer man with the lighter.

Looked like he was filming on his phone while trying to light a smoke while watching a ambulance burning kinda ironic

mrsdewinter

gctest50 wrote: »

Who's the cretin with the lighter in the video ?

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/video-patient-dies-after-ambulance-11923970

What do you mean, 'She knows him'? It looks like she's an administrator asking a stranger not to smoke.

Titanucd

mrsdewinter wrote: »

What do you mean, 'She knows him'? It looks like she's an administrator asking a stranger not to smoke.

Seems about right. All hospital grounds are no smoking areas anyway.

RIP to the man who lost his life.

Hope the Paramedics will be ok.

The flying mouse

RIP to the poor man, what a horrible accident to happen.

The_Valeyard

Oh dear that horrible news.

RIP to the victim.

Polo_Mint

Its a tragic incident and condolences to his family. I hope the paramedic fully recovers.

I live across the road from NGH and the media are still around.


When I first heard the news in work, I thought of that movie Final Destination

Kermit.de.frog

Polo_Mint wrote: »

When I first heard the news in work, I thought of that movie Final Destination

Yeah, but, if that's true, who is next!?

Little CuChulainn

Larbre34 wrote: »

If this turns out to be a maintenance or an age of equipment issue, there shall be war.

Unlikely. It's pretty well known that the emergency services are using equipment unsuitable for the job. The Gardaí are using a computer system rejected by New Zealand, stab vests rejected by the London Met and family cars with no modifications other than lights and sirens. It's not the first ambulance to go on fire either is it? Definitely not the first one to fail to get the patient to the hospital. How many stories where there of overtaxed ambulances breaking down on the way to hospital?

flazio

Remember, we have no information except that the HSE suspect that the oxygen played a part in accelerating the fire. This could be from any number of things from faulty equipment to the patient wanting a quick fag before going inside and not realising the danger.
Way too early to start pointing fingers.

Gael23

Larbre34 wrote: »

A very pr1ckish thing to say, hope he never knows bereavement. RIP to the poor man.

If this turns out to be a maintenance or an age of equipment issue, there shall be war. Perhaps just a tragic accident in a vehicle that carries dangerous materials. Terrible in any case.

If it's a maintenance issue I hope the family bleed the HSE of every penny they have in court. Having said that we don't know that it wasn't just a terrible accident.

Stheno

On RTE News just now they said the ambulance was less than a year old.

God love that man's family, they must be numb.

Apparently the two paramedics will make a full recovery.

flazio

Stheno wrote: »

On RTE News just now they said the ambulance was less than a year old.

God love that man's family, they must be numb.

Apparently the two paramedics will make a full recovery.

Physical recovery perhaps but this will hurt the mind.

Stheno

flazio wrote: »

Physical recovery perhaps but this will hurt the mind.

Oh for sure, I'm not trying to downplay the extent of that, apologies if my post appeared to do so.

iLikeWaffles

Gatling wrote: »

Looked like he was filming on his phone while trying to light a smoke while watching a ambulance burning kinda ironic

Looked like he seen an ambulance on fire took out his phone started filming thought it would be funny to put a lighter into the shot and by all accounts implicate himself for that ambulance being on fire.

I do hope the other person in this video see's it and identifies him at the scene with a lighter while filming. Absolute moron.

He is not lighting a smoke he is filming a tragic event in the hopes that it might become a viral video. If your on you phone while trying to light a smoke there is a fair amount of shuffling to be done and in all cases the lighter ends up at the either the front of the phone with the front pointing towards you or at the back of the phone with the back pointing towards you.

ChikiChiki

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

Looked like he seen an ambulance on fire took out his phone started filming thought it would be funny to put a lighter into the shot and by all accounts implicate himself for that ambulance being on fire.

I do hope the other person in this video see's it and identifies him at the scene with a lighter while filming. Absolute moron.

He is not lighting a smoke he is filming a tragic event in the hopes that it might become a viral video. If your on you phone while trying to light a smoke there is a fair amount of shuffling to be done and in all cases the lighter ends up at the either the front of the phone with the front pointing towards you or at the back of the phone with the back pointing towards you.

Or..........maybe had a lighter in his hand when going for a smoke, spotted the fire and hastily picked out his phone to film it without much thought likely not realising someone was actually inside. Lets not lose the run of ourselves.

RoyalMarine

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Or..........maybe had a lighter in his hand when going for a smoke, spotted the fire and hastily picked out his phone to film it without much thought likely not realising someone was actually inside. Lets not lose the run of ourselves.

It's blatantly obvious what he was doing....

KyranW

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

Looked like he seen an ambulance on fire took out his phone started filming thought it would be funny to put a lighter into the shot and by all accounts implicate himself for that ambulance being on fire.

I do hope the other person in this video see's it and identifies him at the scene with a lighter while filming. Absolute moron.

He is not lighting a smoke he is filming a tragic event in the hopes that it might become a viral video. If your on you phone while trying to light a smoke there is a fair amount of shuffling to be done and in all cases the lighter ends up at the either the front of the phone with the front pointing towards you or at the back of the phone with the back pointing towards you.

And then what? Lock him up and throw away the key?

Get a grip of yourself FFS! :rolleyes:

iLikeWaffles

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Or..........maybe had a lighter in his hand when going for a smoke, spotted the fire and hastily picked out his phone to film it without much thought likely not realising someone was actually inside. Lets not lose the run of ourselves.

Maybe you didn't read the last part of my post.

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

Looked like he seen an ambulance on fire took out his phone started filming thought it would be funny to put a lighter into the shot and by all accounts implicate himself for that ambulance being on fire.

I do hope the other person in this video see's it and identifies him at the scene with a lighter while filming. Absolute moron.

He is not lighting a smoke he is filming a tragic event in the hopes that it might become a viral video. If your on you phone while trying to light a smoke there is a fair amount of shuffling to be done and in all cases the lighter ends up at the either the front of the phone with the front pointing towards you or at the back of the phone with the back pointing towards you.

If you take your phone out and start filming while there is a something bad happening what does that tell you. The video is clearly an attempt to concentrate on getting the lighter into the camera lens without blocking the fire in the background. Open your eye's.

Nobody is saying that he clearly is the cause of this tragedy he should be held accountable for what the video shows him doing and at the very least be questioned about it.

boombang

A Belfast Paper is suggesting the victim may have lit a cigarette:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/cigarette-may-have-led-to-blast-that-killed-ambulance-patient-35072272.html

I don't want to get into victim blaming, but I would have thought this would have seemed distinct possibility. Just pulled up outside the hospital, seems possible the victim might light a cigarette without being aware (or warned of) the dangers if oxygen was being used. Something about the unions jumping up straight away to question the equipment annoys me here.

iLikeWaffles

Why believe everything you read in the papers?

I think everyone should take a moral step away from this thread and have some respect to the family's of those effected by the tragedy!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

boombang wrote: »

...

I don't want to get into victim blaming, but...

But you'll do so anyway!

dublinman1990

My thought are with the man's family after this horrible incident. To hear that only a short time ago is really heartbreaking.

I hope the man killed Rests in Peace. My sympathies go out to the medics who were injured in the incident.

boombang

Ana Gray Railing wrote: »

But you'll do so anyway!

I just said it should be considered as possibility. I didn't affirm that's what happened. Even if it was the cause it would not necessarily mean culpability for the tragedy if the victim was not informed of the risks.

Anyway, I returned to this thread to post this for balance.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ambulance-fire-victim-s-family-rejects-claims-he-was-smoking-1.2803533