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Foreign sick certs

  • 20-09-2016 12:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭


    Hey,

    Our company policy says we only accept sick certs from Irish Medical Council. Im in Payroll here ( no HR) and get a lot of certs from our Polish and Romanian workers from their home country. Is there legislation to cover this? Does the Social Welfare accept foreign hospital/ GP certs ?

    ( these may occur when someone gets sick at home or goes home for cheaper treatment )

    thanks !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    If you were to accept foreign certs, you would need to be sure the doctors are "real" and they should be translated and notorized


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Companies do not have to accept sick certs at all, never mind Irish/foreign ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    As davo10 says, they're not really under any obligation to accept certs at all, never mind foreign ones.

    If it came down to a legal battle over a disciplinary matter, I think a court would find it reasonable that the employer cannot be expected to accept a letter from a foreign-based doctor whose credentials cannot be verified.

    Provided this has been made clear (send out a company wide email and include it in whatever you give new joiners), I see no issue with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Accept them for what purpose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Amanda.ie


    sootie wrote: »
    Hey,

    Our company policy says we only accept sick certs from Irish Medical Council. Im in Payroll here ( no HR) and get a lot of certs from our Polish and Romanian workers from their home country. Is there legislation to cover this? Does the Social Welfare accept foreign hospital/ GP certs ?

    ( these may occur when someone gets sick at home or goes home for cheaper treatment )

    thanks !

    Why are you asking on boards.ie when you have company policy?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    Just curious as to why someone would come up with a cert from a doctor not based in Ireland? If they are working here, surely they are living here, so why would they be travelling home (sick) to see a doctor in their home country?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Amanda.ie


    Just curious as to why someone would come up with a cert from a doctor not based in Ireland? If they are working here, surely they are living here, so why would they be travelling home (sick) to see a doctor in their home country?

    Probably got sick while on holiday, to extend the holiday. Cert needed to cover work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Just curious as to why someone would come up with a cert from a doctor not based in Ireland? If they are working here, surely they are living here, so why would they be travelling home (sick) to see a doctor in their home country?

    Quality care, from professionals who speak their own language.

    Obviously not for acute conditions. But lots go home for anything elective.

    And some get sick while there on holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Yenwod


    sootie wrote: »
    Does the Social Welfare accept foreign hospital/ GP certs ?
    Yup, Social Welfare will accept them - official ones (like our MC1 / MC2), not just a doctors note


    http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/EUOut-of-State.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭sootie


    because I was asking if there was a legislation that address the issue. I cannot find one on google so I asked boards.ie because its always informative and helpful.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    Quality care, from professionals who speak their own language.

    Obviously not for acute conditions. But lots go home for anything elective.

    And some get sick while there on holiday.

    Thanks, yes, I can see the benefit on the language issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭endagibson


    And some get sick while there on holiday.
    Company I work for will return holiday days if a sick note is produced. At least that's what the HR policy says. I've never used it and I don't know anyone else who has.

    There are also some medical treatments available elsewhere that aren't available in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Amanda.ie


    endagibson wrote: »
    Company I work for will return holiday days if a sick note is produced. At least that's what the HR policy says. I've never used it and I don't know anyone else who has.

    There are also some medical treatments available elsewhere that aren't available in Ireland.

    Standard practice to return holidays if sickness occurred during holidays, with a cert being produced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    endagibson wrote: »
    Company I work for will return holiday days if a sick note is produced. At least that's what the HR policy says. I've never used it and I don't know anyone else who has.

    There are also some medical treatments available elsewhere that aren't available in Ireland.
    Amanda.ie wrote: »
    Standard practice to return holidays if sickness occurred during holidays, with a cert being produced.
    Employers are legally required to return holidays days if the employee is sick on those days.


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