Herringbone crush - What size

pedigree 6

I am thinking of putting in a herringbone crush to hold a row of cows at a time.
I have an eight unit parlour. Just wondering what dimensions work best for these.
Or has anyone any good/bad experience of them.

visatorro

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I am thinking of putting in a herringbone crush to hold a row of cows at a time.
I have an eight unit parlour. Just wondering what dimensions work best for these.
Or has anyone any good/bad experience of them.

Surely you can just make it the same size as the row in the parlour.

Frazzled had one for handling a big number of cows. I never used one but always thought you'd need to throw meal on the ground to make cows go into it and fill it from the top. Maybe I'm wrong. My vet prefers a normal crush for testing. But then you see an odd one being awkward in them aswell.

pedigree 6

visatorro wrote: »

Surely you can just make it the same size as the row in the parlour.

Frazzled had one for handling a big number of cows. I never used one but always thought you'd need to throw meal on the ground to make cows go into it and fill it from the top. Maybe I'm wrong. My vet prefers a normal crush for testing. But then you see an odd one being awkward in them aswell.

Yea thinking about trying to get measurement from the parlour. It's just that the feed troughs are zigzag to the rump rail. If you know what I mean and I suppose you take a measurement from the rump rail to the middle of the trough (thats where the front rail of the crush would go). I suppose it depends on your cow size as well. I wonder has anyone got adjustable ones?
I'm just working a few things out.

trixi2011

Have seen one using an adjustable breast rail before was a good job. Have one here il pm you some pics and measurements over the weekend if you want.

pedigree 6

trixi2011 wrote: »

Have seen one using an adjustable breast rail before was a good job. Have one here il pm you some pics and measurements over the weekend if you want.

Please yes. That would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Keepgrowing

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Please yes. That would be much appreciated. Thanks.

A few pics of ours. I'll measure tomorrow. Disaster for TB testing. Brilliant for bloods, scanning, painting, ai, tagging, vaccinations, tail clipping etc.

It holds a full row from parlour, takes a few minutes to load but boy is it comfortable for man and beast. No parlour should be without one along with drafting. Very cheap to construct.

pedigree 6

Keepgrowing wrote: »

A few pics of ours. I'll measure tomorrow. Disaster for TB testing. Brilliant for bloods, scanning, painting, ai, tagging, vaccinations, tail clipping etc.

It holds a full row from parlour, takes a few minutes to load but boy is it comfortable for man and beast. No parlour should be without one along with drafting. Very cheap to construct.

Thanks.

You haven't got a bar going above their heads.
If you were doing it again, would you put one in and have you ever any issues with cows jumping the front rail or when they are tight in the crush does it matter.

Sorry a few questions there.
I nearly have it figured out in my head.;)

Keepgrowing

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Thanks.

You haven't got a bar going above their heads.
If you were doing it again, would you put one in and have you ever any issues with cows jumping the front rail or when they are tight in the crush does it matter.

Sorry a few questions there.
I nearly have it figured out in my head.;)

2 cows here who jump every time they're in it so wouldn't bother we just divert to other race or ai in parlour

visatorro

Keepgrowing wrote: »

2 cows here who jump every time they're in it so wouldn't bother we just divert to other race or ai in parlour

You find they line up OK.?
Is they back gate adjustable that you can pinch them in a little?
Is it just tail painting and AI that you use it for?

Keepgrowing

visatorro wrote: »

You find they line up OK.?
Is they back gate adjustable that you can pinch them in a little?
Is it just tail painting and AI that you use it for?

The one I posted holds 30, can be loaded alone but like all jobs much easier with 2. They need to be lined up as you load but mostly line up perfectly if first 1 or 2 are lined

trixi2011

Here's a few pics of one with a head rail. Can't 4 the life of me find a measuring tape so no measurements yet .

GrasstoMilk

trixi2011 wrote: »

Here's a few pics of one with a head rail. Can't 4 the life of me find a measuring tape so no measurements yet .

What do the tyres do trixi?

trixi2011

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

What do the tyres do trixi?

Stops the first cows pushing to far forward when doing Ai. Also more comfortable on the front cow

pedigree 6

trixi2011 wrote: »

Stops the first cows pushing to far forward when doing Ai. Also more comfortable on the front cow

Am I right in saying you have the tyres there because of the post at the cows head? I mean they get stuck there and can't back up when other cows are beside her and the tyres just give the cow that bit of room to get out.

And another one for anyone who has them. Is it that hard to tb test the cows in them? Is it just that bit awkward to get at their necks with the cow beside them.

trixi2011

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Am I right in saying you have the tyres there because of the post at the cows head? I mean they get stuck there and can't back up when other cows are beside her and the tyres just give the cow that bit of room to get out.

And another one for anyone who has them. Is it that hard to tb test the cows in them? Is it just that bit awkward to get at their necks with the cow beside them.

Yip that's pretty much it second cow push's and then you can't get at the first one to ai. We Tb test the cow threw our one never found it to bad. When Tb testing or dosing we would stack the cows extra tight , probably putting in an extra 2 cows than when we are at ai in to it. Always find if we start from the back when Tb testing it works better

Keepgrowing

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Thanks.

You haven't got a bar going above their heads.
If you were doing it again, would you put one in and have you ever any issues with cows jumping the front rail or when they are tight in the crush does it matter.

Sorry a few questions there.
I nearly have it figured out in my head.;)

Found a tape
Rump rail 760 high
Breast rail 930
Width 1530
Length 48'
Holds 28 cows

pedigree 6

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Found a tape
Rump rail 760 high
Breast rail 930
Width 1530
Length 48'
Holds 28 cows

Good man. Thanks.

kowtow

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Good man. Thanks.

I wonder did pedigree do this in the end?

Am looking for a decent side by side crush design to take a small number - half a dozen or so - with a single traditional crush at the head of it for anything which requires it.

There is a design in the Teagasc infrastructure manual below which I am using as the basis for ideas. Has anyone done something very similar? Any obvious problems with it?

Floki

I don't think pedigree 6 got around to it yet.
I think he's still using his normal crush beside the parlour.

I think the biggest attraction for him of the batch crush was to have it the same size as his parlour ( 8 unit) but it's still an idea for the future I believe.

cute geoge

Floki wrote: »

I don't think pedigree 6 got around to it yet.
I think he's still using his normal crush beside the parlour.

I think the biggest attraction for him of the batch crush was to have it the same size as his parlour ( 8 unit) but it's still an idea for the future I believe.

I would never have guessed but nice to hear from you all the same:cool: