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NCT - remove hubcaps where wheel nuts not visible

  • 07-09-2016 7:15pm
    #1
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,193 ✭✭✭✭


    I know the NCT mentions something like..

    "Ensure the wheel hubcaps are removed (only in the case where the wheel nuts are NOT visible)"

    So should be OK here, right?

    2016_09_07_19_48_24_HDR.jpg

    Just thought I'd clarify as saw mixed opinions online.. my last car had wheel trims which hid wheel nuts so I always had to remove them.


Comments

  • #2
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    Yes you're good to go!


  • #3
    NickNickleby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    looks good to me. I think they just need to know that there are no wheel nuts missing.


  • #4
    Basq
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    Cheers lads... thought as much.


  • #5
    vandriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Can't tell from the picture,but if the nuts themselves have a plastic cover,you need to remove them.


  • #6
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    vandriver wrote: »
    Can't tell from the picture,but if the nuts themselves have a plastic cover,you need to remove them.

    Those Ford nut covers are non-removable and you can use a socket directly over them. If OP was to remove the covers he would never be able to put them back on.


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  • #7
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Plus those aren't wheel trims :)


  • #8
    DakarVert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭DakarVert


    shietpilot wrote: »
    If OP was to remove the covers he would never be able to put them back on.

    Yes he would.... Stupid design, Nearly guaranteed the shiny cover comes off eventually. Just need an 18mm socket instead of 19mm. :)


    OP please clean the brake dust off :p


  • #9
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,193 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    DakarVert wrote: »
    OP please clean the brake dust off :p
    Going for a big ol' clean before NCT.. don't worry! ;)


  • #10
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    vandriver wrote: »
    Can't tell from the picture,but if the nuts themselves have a plastic cover,you need to remove them.

    Why would you think one needs to remove them for the test?
    Nothing like that on NCT website....


  • #11
    *Kol*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    It was said earlier that the covers are part of the nut and they don't need to be removed.


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  • #12
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    *Kol* wrote: »
    It was said earlier that the covers are part of the nut and they don't need to be removed.

    In some cars they are part of the nut, in some others they are not and are easily removable.

    But it any case they don't need to be removed for NCT.


  • #13
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I *think* that rule is mainly to ensure no nuts are missing.


  • #14
    kerten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭kerten


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Plus those aren't wheel trims :)

    There are exceptions like those on my car. I forgot to remove the cap thinking it is not a wheel trim but NCT picked it as a fail in addition to other stuff.

    252500250741_1.jpg


  • #15
    vandriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    CiniO wrote: »
    In some cars they are part of the nut, in some others they are not and are easily removable.

    But it any case they don't need to be removed for NCT.
    I was told to remove them on my wife's Fabia(then lost them)


  • #16
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    CiniO wrote: »
    Why would you think one needs to remove them for the test?
    Nothing like that on NCT website....
    CiniO wrote: »
    In some cars they are part of the nut, in some others they are not and are easily removable.

    But it any case they don't need to be removed for NCT.

    I'd disagree, the NCT test requires a visual inspection of the actual nut to ensure the correct nut is fitted and it's not damaged or loose, a cap which is fitted on top may hide any issues with the actual nuts themselves.

    A nut cap dosn't mean the nut isn't damaged or cracked or loose or that there's even a nut underneath** so it's reasonable to say they do need to be removed.

    **Years aho I removed a nut cap which was held in place by god knows what to change the wheel and I looked staight into a threaded hole and no nut.

    Just because the NCT site or manual dosn't say it dosn't mean it must not be done, the manual does say the nut must be checked for damage etc and a cover can hide that.


  • #17
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    GM228 wrote: »
    I'd disagree, the NCT test requires a visual inspection of the actual nut to ensure the correct nut is fitted and it's not damaged or loose, a cap which is fitted on top may hide any issues with the actual nuts themselves.

    A nut cap dosn't mean the nut isn't damaged or cracked or loose or that there's even a nut underneath** so it's reasonable to say they do need to be removed.

    **Years aho I removed a nut cap which was held in place by god knows what to change the wheel and I looked staight into a threaded hole and no nut.

    Just because the NCT site or manual dosn't say it dosn't mean it must not be done, the manual does say the nut must be checked for damage etc and a cover can hide that.

    I agree with everything you say, except the bolded.

    If car manufacturer equipped my wheel nuts with plastic covers, and NCT website, faq and manual doesn't tell me I have to take them off, then all it means I don't need to take them off, and NCT tester will have to deal with it himself - whether by taking them off himself or not inspecting the nuts.
    It's really as simple as that.

    They can't just come up with some out of the sky requirements which are not publically available.


  • #18
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭Allinall


    CiniO wrote: »
    I agree with everything you say, except the bolded.

    If car manufacturer equipped my wheel nuts with plastic covers, and NCT website, faq and manual doesn't tell me I have to take them off, then all it means I don't need to take them off, and NCT tester will have to deal with it himself - whether by taking them off himself or not inspecting the nuts.
    It's really as simple as that.

    They can't just come up with some out of the sky requirements which are not publically available.

    Point 4 on the "Pre NCT Checklist' makes it clear they require the wheel nuts to be visible.

    https://www.ncts.ie/media/1013/preparing-for-your-nct.pdf


  • #19
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Allinall wrote: »
    Point 4 on the "Pre NCT Checklist' makes it clear they require the wheel nuts to be visible.
    4. The wheel hubcaps are removed (only in the case where wheel nuts are
    not visible) and the tyres are inflated to the correct pressure.

    No. All it says that hubcaps must be removed if wheel nuts are not visible.
    No where it says that wheel nut coveres must also be removed.


  • #20
    DakarVert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭DakarVert


    Ah Jesus, It's fairly obvious they want the nuts visible. Why be awkward about what it says?


  • #21
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭Allinall


    CiniO wrote: »
    No. All it says that hubcaps must be removed if wheel nuts are not visible.
    No where it says that wheel nut coveres must also be removed.

    Why do you think they say

    "Only in the case where wheel nuts are not visible"?

    Do you think they would test your car if you had snow socks covering your wheels?

    A little common sense goes a long way, rather than having to have every little detail spelled out .


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