Milking parlour layout / Cost of shed to fit.!

Icelandicseige

Does anyone no where to get a good layout/design for a 12 unit milking parlour and shed for it to go into.? There is some online but a lot of measurements are not in them.
I'm just looking for a cost on a shed that will fit a 12 unit milking parlour and room beside it for milk tank cheers.

bullnuts

Icelandicseige wrote: »

Does anyone no where to get a good layout/design for a 12 unit milking parlour and shed for it to go into.? There is some online but a lot of measurements are not in them.
I'm just looking for a cost on a shed that will fit a 12 unit milking parlour and room beside it for milk tank cheers.

I think folk are afraid to condone this idea 😀

Mooooo

Give a few companies a shout and they will send out dimensions for a parlour and adjust it to suit. You dont have to buy off them but they will give you ideas. Ideally put tank and dairy to the side to allow you to add to the parlour front or back in the future and ideally have the cows walking straight out ahead off the parlour as it will allow you to put in a cheap drafting gate using pullies from the pit when you can see the cow and cow flow would be better.

visatorro

Basic twelve unit 60 k
Basic shed 8k
Ground work concrete 8k
Soiled water tank 10 k
Outside milk tank 20 k
Meal bin + augers 5 k
Lad beside me uses the bottom of the meal bin as storage/office!!

No frills there so rough estimates.

Mooooo

60k will get a 12 unit with plenty frills. Got 14.6k litre tank and 14 unit parlour with vari speed milk pump no other extras only feeders for 65 + vat. Tank and old parlour traded in was 5k. After grant around 40. Esb and electrician not included there.

cute geoge

Mooooo wrote: »

60k will get a 12 unit with plenty frills. Got 14.6k litre tank and 14 unit parlour with vari speed milk pump no other extras only feeders for 65 + vat. Tank and old parlour traded in was 5k. After grant around 40. Esb and electrician not included there.

Did the old shed work for the new parlour ,i presume you had to extend it and lay some new conco ,was this included in your costs

Mooooo

No that was only the machine and tank fitted. Visatorro's other costs are about right I'd say as he said roughly all depends on each site I guess.
Milked in old 10 unit that morning and they came ripped it out and pit in new machine and milked that night. It's in the old but had to raise the roof for feeders and make dairy bigger for tank. Also got in 3 phase and as power goes to house from parlour electrician cost a bit extra.

visatorro

Mooooo wrote: »

60k will get a 12 unit with plenty frills. Got 14.6k litre tank and 14 unit parlour with vari speed milk pump no other extras only feeders for 65 + vat. Tank and old parlour traded in was 5k. After grant around 40. Esb and electrician not included there.

5k per unit. I was including feeders in that. Will hardly buy cluster removers and auto id or drafting.
As posted earlier get the reps out and knock them off each other.

Timmaay

Mooooo wrote: »

60k will get a 12 unit with plenty frills. Got 14.6k litre tank and 14 unit parlour with vari speed milk pump no other extras only feeders for 65 + vat. Tank and old parlour traded in was 5k. After grant around 40. Esb and electrician not included there.

How many cows are you expecting to milk with that tank ha??

Anyways on the shed size, most parlours about 16ft wide, a 12unit will fit comfy in a 50ft long shed, with 10ft the top (however I'd fully recommend leaving the pit longer if you have any plans to expand in the future), the dairy and plant room will be another Bay onto the front if you want to go that way, however more ideal in my view is have the dairy to the side. Anyways if you call the dairy another 16x20ft, in total that's around 1100square feet, the going rate per sq ft is in around 5euro/ft, so your talking about 5/6k for the roof. I did a 14 unit parlour here last year, the old dairy was fine, however I did the roof on the new parlour myself, just a basic lean-to roof of the existing cubicles, cost me about 1800 in materials (timber rafters which aren't used much anymore but steel rafters would have added 1000 at least). Anyways comes in around 2e/sq ft, fair saving doing it myself!

Mooooo

In hindsight having seen a few other places since there.are other ways around things too bit we all have our own budgets. One lad built the parlour himself and then bought a good secondhand 20 unit and cut it out of where it was on the frame and brought it to his place on a trailer. Saved cost getting a tech in to take it apart and rebuild it instead only had to test it really. I wouldn't have been able to save much on building myself and old parlour and tank were on way out so hence the way I went. Ideally I would have changed location but building costs would have pushed me over budget. Op look at plenty of places and as your building a shed from.scratch get the location right

Mooooo

Timmaay wrote: »

Mooooo wrote: »

60k will get a 12 unit with plenty frills. Got 14.6k litre tank and 14 unit parlour with vari speed milk pump no other extras only feeders for 65 + vat. Tank and old parlour traded in was 5k. After grant around 40. Esb and electrician not included there.

How many cows are you expecting to milk with that tank ha??

Anyways on the shed size, most parlours about 16ft wide, a 12unit will fit comfy in a 50ft long shed, with 10ft the top (however I'd fully recommend leaving the pit longer if you have any plans to expand in the future), the dairy and plant room will be another Bay onto the front if you want to go that way, however more ideal in my view is have the dairy to the side. Anyways if you call the dairy another 16x20ft, in total that's around 1100square feet, the going rate per sq ft is in around 5euro/ft, so your talking about 5/6k for the roof. I did a 14 unit parlour here last year, the old dairy was fine, however I did the roof on the new parlour myself, just a basic lean-to roof of the existing cubicles, cost me about 1800 in materials (timber rafters which aren't used much anymore but steel rafters would have added 1000 at least). Anyways comes in around 2e/sq ft, fair saving doing it myself!

At 124 hope to go to 140, aut/spring here at the min so switching to spring would hold 3 days at peak with ease. If I could get ground close by for heifers and maybe silage could possibly go to 180 maybe more but still figuring it out and winter accommodation would have to go up as well. A tank can always be moved and tbh I don't think there was much of a difference from 10k to my one price.wise. 25 years ago dad was putting in the new tank and he was going for a 7 tank I think and he was told it was a waste of money and he'd never fill it so he settled for a 5k tank. Within 4 years he was full at 2 days at peak and for the last 10 years we were either collected everyday for 3 months or fcuking around with barrels so I said I'd avoid that anyway ha

Timmaay

visatorro wrote: »

5k per unit. I was including feeders in that. Will hardly buy cluster removers and auto id or drafting.
As posted earlier get the reps out and knock them off each other.

3.6k/unit got me ACRs, milk meters, auto washer and pig feeders. That's plus vat, but ya get that back. After the 40% grant it stood me 2300/unit.

Fully agreed, get the reps out, but make sure the dairymaster rep is the very last one you get out (if you bother at all ha), and show him the quote from the others and tell him not to prick you about!

alps

Make sure you get a commitment on service cost and parts for the machine. Some will put in the machine at little over cost and then ride you for the next 20 years...massive difference in servicing costs..

visatorro

Timmaay wrote: »

3.6k/unit got me ACRs, milk meters, auto washer and pig feeders. That's plus vat, but ya get that back. After the 40% grant it stood me 2300/unit.

Fully agreed, get the reps out, but make sure the dairymaster rep is the very last one you get out (if you bother at all ha), and show him the quote from the others and tell him not to prick you about!

That wasn't too bad Tim. You'll have to milk for 30 years now seeing as you got such a good deal!!!

Icelandicseige

alps wrote: »

Make sure you get a commitment on service cost and parts for the machine. Some will put in the machine at little over cost and then ride you for the next 20 years...massive difference in servicing costs..

What are typical service costs and maintenance on a machine

pms7

Icelandicseige wrote: »

What are typical service costs and maintenance on a machine

Replace all rubbers/liners myself, pay €300+vat for test, €530+vat for test and replace pulsator relays every 3 years on 10 units

Timmaay

visatorro wrote: »

That wasn't too bad Tim. You'll have to milk for 30 years now seeing as you got such a good deal!!!

Pricing up adding another 6units onto it at the min ha, if I can get a similar deal, and do the pit and roof extension myself should do it for 15k. Which would bring me back to 7rows at 140cows (did I mention I'm not really a fan of milking and very lazy ha). As for 30yrs time, by then I'd genuinely say cows milk will be all but totally replaced by some sort of artificial laboratory milk that has a much lower carbon footprint etc...

dar31

Selling a 12 unit fullwood soon. it will be ready to take out start dec, if anyone is intrested.
Acr, 6gl jars, dumpline, mangers and individual meal feeders( feeders need a bit of attention, but still working), vacum gates front, 2 vacum pumps, s/s double wash through, and kerbing, (if you want to go to the bother of ripping it out).

:D:D:D

kowtow

dar31 wrote: »

Selling a 12 unit fullwood soon. it will be ready to take out start dec, if anyone is intrested.
Acr, 6gl jars, dumpline, mangers and individual meal feeders( feeders need a bit of attention, but still working), vacum gates front, 2 vacum pumps, s/s double wash through, and kerbing, (if you want to go to the bother of ripping it out).

:D:D:D

Are those the auger master feeders, if so what are they like? Do they feed individual and/or batch?

Sam Kade

pms7 wrote: »

Replace all rubbers/liners myself, pay €300+vat for test, €530+vat for test and replace pulsator relays every 3 years on 10 units

€300+VAT for a test , I paid €120 include VAT for an 8 unit and I thought that was dear. Why do you need to change the relays?

dar31

kowtow wrote: »

Are those the auger master feeders, if so what are they like? Do they feed individual and/or batch?

Ration master i think they are, they feed indiviidually,served us well for a long time