Maximum to earn to keep Unemployment Assistance

YFlyer

Hi there

Would anyone have the formula to work out the maximum amount that can be earned over a maximum of three days per week in order to keep Unemployment Assistance?

My UA be €188 pw

Thanks

eastbono

You wont be able to keep the full €188. Any means from employment will be assessed against your claim. It would depend on the number of hours worked per day... the hourly rate of pay etc.

YFlyer

eastbono wrote: »

You wont be able to keep the full €188. Any means from employment will be assessed against your claim. It would depend on the number of hours worked per day... the hourly rate of pay etc.

Yes I understand that. It is usually 60% 0r so of what you earn plus the €188.


I'm wondering can you earn close to the €188? That would give (188 x 0.6%) + €188 =€300.80 (take home money).

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

Yes I understand that. It is usually 60% 0r so of what you earn plus the €188.


I'm wondering can you earn close to the €188? That would give (188 x 0.6%) + €188 =€300.80 (take home money).

You can earn €60 over 3 days,which is disregarded.
Over that,your means(deduction from the 188) are 60%,so theoretically you could earn another €313 (so €373 total) before losing all your JSA.
However,you might have to convince the dole that you are not working full-time.

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

You can earn €60 over 3 days,which is disregarded.
Over that,your means(deduction from the 188) are 60%,so theoretically you could earn another €313 (so €373 total) before losing all your JSA.
However,you might have to convince the dole that you are not working full-time.

Ah ok cheers. That looks like I can earn up to €185 per week. Get 60% of that and add that to the €188. Taken home €299

Avatar MIA

When you work certain days isn't the €188 reduced as well?!?

YFlyer

Avatar MIA wrote: »

When you work certain days isn't the €188 reduced as well?!?

Unless both values are added together first and then a percentage is taken off.

Avatar MIA

YFlyer wrote: »

Unless both values are added together first and then a percentage is taken off.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html

The above gives a bit more info... to show what your means are. First €20 disregarded and then balance X by 60%.

Other factors like spouse and kids will affect.

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

Ah ok cheers. That looks like I can earn up to €185 per week. Get 60% of that and add that to the €188. Taken home €299

You don't appear to understand my post or how the means test works.
Where did you get €185 from?

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

You don't appear to understand my post or how the means test works.
Where did you get €185 from?

Cheers man. Yeah they set it up like that for those that be earn different amounts each day.


Must do some calculations in the morning

Hollister11

YFlyer wrote: »

Hi there

Would anyone have the formula to work out the maximum amount that can be earned over a maximum of three days per week in order to keep Unemployment Assistance?

My UA be €188 pw

Thanks

How about you see can you work 5 days instead of 3 so you can earn more money, and not need the dole. It might actually be easier to get full time work rather than part time work.

YFlyer

Hollister11 wrote: »

How about you see can you work 5 days instead of 3 so you can earn more money, and not need the dole. It might actually be easier to get full time work rather than part time work.

It is for work I already did as an invigilator back in May. I had to wait for six weeks for the company to fill up the UP16 form.

My gross payment over the three weeks (each week vary amount) is €553, superannuation €46.75, pension levy €44.32 and given Net €462 (for 3 weeks).

The social welfare has not paid me anything.

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

It is for work I already did as an invigilator back in May. I had to wait for six weeks for the company to fill up the UP16 form.

My gross payment over the three weeks (each week vary amount) is €553, superannuation €46.75, pension levy €44.32 and given Net €462 (for 3 weeks).

The social welfare has not paid me anything.

If you worked 9 days,I calculate that SW owe you €368

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

If you worked 9 days,I calculate that SW owe you €368

Cheers


Did you use the Gross or Net pay?


It is actually 8 days. two weeks of 3 days and one week of 2 days.


I'm getting onto the company that paid me to send on my daily timesheets so that I know how much exactly for each day and week.


Even if one of the weeks is over the limit. That would still mean two of the weeks are ok.

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

Cheers


Did you use the Gross or Net pay?


It is actually 8 days. two weeks of 3 days and one week of 2 days.


I'm getting onto the company that paid me to send on my daily timesheets so that I know how much exactly for each day and week.


Even if one of the weeks is over the limit. That would still mean two of the weeks are ok.

You use gross pay less superannuation less prsi(which you didn't mention).Eight days would be 356 owed.

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

You use gross pay less superannuation less prsi(which you didn't mention).Eight days would be 356 owed.

Thanks

I think I will have to subtract the pension (USC) as well?

Unfortunately the UP 3i form I have doesn't mention anything about USC.

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

You use gross pay less superannuation less prsi(which you didn't mention).Eight days would be 356 owed.

Ok I think I understand what you did.


(462.83 + 44.32) - 160 = €347


60% = 208


(3 x 188) - 208


= €356


If it is from net pay only, dole owe me €383

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

Ok I think I understand what you did.


(462.83 + 44.32) - 160 = €347


60% = 208


(3 x 188) - 208


= €356


If it is from net pay only, dole owe me €383

It's not from net pay.

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

It's not from net pay.

I think you may be using for Self Employee.

vandriver

YFlyer wrote: »

I think you may be using for Self Employee.

I think you may be wrong.

vandriver

From welfare.ie

"Assessable income is gross earnings less deductions for PRSI, superannuation (including AVC's and PRSA's) and union dues.

Deductions in respect of income tax, VHI or similar health insurance premiums and travel expenses are not allowed."
Are we clear now?

YFlyer

vandriver wrote: »

From welfare.ie

"Assessable income is gross earnings less deductions for PRSI, superannuation (including AVC's and PRSA's) and union dues.

Deductions in respect of income tax, VHI or similar health insurance premiums and travel expenses are not allowed."
Are we clear now?

Thanks a million.

The silly accountant subtracted the USC from the Gross pay. No wonder why the dole wouldn't pay me.