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Electric Picnic/charity blasts festival goers

  • 06-09-2016 4:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭


    this got up my nostrils a while ago,simply because the boss of the charity expected drunk middle aged teenagers to care when they wanted to dance around to roxy foxy music and eat burritos for breakfast..

    the sense of entitlement simply because its a charity is astounding .
    in the below article he says its being worthwhile as it raised the profile of the charity

    I'm not quite sure electric picnic /festival republic view its cash cows/customers in the same way..

    I'm off to paddy powers to bet they won't be there next year

    .irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/charity-finds-most-tents-left-at-electric-picnic-
    unusable-1.2781569



    The vast majority of tents left behind at Electric Picnic were unusable by a charity which had appealed for concert-goers to donate them to Syrian refugees.
    The Jacket Off Your Back charity, which had appealed for Electric Picnic-goers to donate their tents and sleeping bags to it - before remarking that many tents smelled of urine - has said it did not mean to offend donors.
    Charity organiser Kevin Kelly put out the call for revellers to leave their tents and sleeping bags folded for collection.
    The sleeping bags were destined for homeless people in Ireland, while the tents were intended for refugees - mainly Syrians - in camps in Greece.
    He later published a video online of thousands of abandoned tents, with the words: “Omg the smell of piss, drink and muck is unreal, it looks like Idomeni [refugee camp in Greece] without the refugees.”


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭corglass


    Your post isn't very clear. Whats your point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    corglass wrote: »
    Your post isn't very clear. Whats your point?

    I think it means if you want to have a picnic ,go to a festival which has electricity and give to a charity when your out of your mind...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    I think it means if you want to have a picnic ,go to a festival which has electricity and give to a charity when your out of your mind...

    How to do give electricity? Will it stay in a paper bag?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    What's a middle aged teenager?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    How to do give electricity? Will it stay in a paper bag?


    That's a shocking thing to say...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    That's a shocking thing to say...

    Yes, quite electrifying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Yes, quite electrifying



    I got chills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    There was all sorts of everything going up nostrils left, right and centre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    I've viewed the aftermath of a few festivals this year,body and soul,knockanstockan,life festival,townlands and the tents in that picture look in great nick! What amazes me about these "hippy" types is the rubbish they leave behind...place resembles ballealy tip head afterwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I got chills

    They're multiplying. ..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I dunno.. if they were good enough for a few days then whats the problem? Wash them out, roll them up and off ya go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Is this about the tents left behind being useless? That 'link' won't open.

    They should work out a system where you get fined for leaving your rubbish behind you. Tents are a joke. People buy the cheapest ones available and spend the weekend peeing and drinking in them and think they're being generous 'donating' them. We all know you're just too lazy to bring them home. Like any poor cub scout is going to want that now.

    You should have to give a 50 euro deposit at the door that you only get back if you leave with the same tent. It's just dumping otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    those tents are cheap junk anyway

    does this charity expect migrants to spend a winter living in them:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    They're multiplying. ..

    I am losing control


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Im sure the refugees will also be delighted with the myriad of cash, mobile phones and other personal effects which were lost by festival goers and found by the charity workers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    can't post link as a newbie .. updated info


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I am losing control

    Better shape up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Skyfarm wrote: »
    can't post link as a newbie .. updated info

    Would you sleep in a second hand sleeping bag ?

    I work in homeless services and I wouldn't expect anyone to sleep in a second hand sleeping bag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Better shape up

    'cause I need a man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Would you sleep in a second hand sleeping bag ?

    I work in homeless services and I wouldn't expect anyone to sleep in a second hand sleeping bag.

    If it has been cleaned, I certainly would.

    I sleep in hotel beds. I'm pretty sure they don't take new sheets out of the packet for each guest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Better shape up
    'cause I need a man

    I've got chills,
    They're multiplying.
    And I'm losing self-control.
    'Cause the power your supplying,
    Its electrifying.
    (related to the thread) :D
    You better shape up,
    'Cause you're the only one,
    And my heart is set on you
    You better shape up,
    You better understand,
    To my heart I must be true.

    You're the one that I want.
    (You are the one I want)
    Oh, oh, oh. Honey.
    The one that I want.
    (You are the one I want want)
    Oh, oh, oh. Honey.
    The one that I want
    (You are the one I want want)
    Oh, oh, oh.
    The one I need.
    Oh, yes indeed.

    Oh, yeah yeah yeah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    *sings badly*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Skyfarm wrote: »
    this got up my nostrils a while ago,simply because the boss of the charity expected drunk middle aged teenagers to care when they wanted to dance around to roxy foxy music and eat burritos for breakfast..

    the sense of entitlement simply because its a charity is astounding .
    in the below article he says its being worthwhile as it raised the profile of the charity

    I'm not quite sure electric picnic /festival republic view its cash cows/customers in the same way..

    I'm off to paddy powers to bet they won't be there next year

    .irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/charity-finds-most-tents-left-at-electric-picnic-
    unusable-1.2781569



    The vast majority of tents left behind at Electric Picnic were unusable by a charity which had appealed for concert-goers to donate them to Syrian refugees.
    The Jacket Off Your Back charity, which had appealed for Electric Picnic-goers to donate their tents and sleeping bags to it - before remarking that many tents smelled of urine - has said it did not mean to offend donors.
    Charity organiser Kevin Kelly put out the call for revellers to leave their tents and sleeping bags folded for collection.
    The sleeping bags were destined for homeless people in Ireland, while the tents were intended for refugees - mainly Syrians - in camps in Greece.
    He later published a video online of thousands of abandoned tents, with the words: “Omg the smell of piss, drink and muck is unreal, it looks like Idomeni [refugee camp in Greece] without the refugees.”


    What was he expecting ?
    Its a huge festival for young and maybe not so young people, where da people let go of themselves, In future folks better bring there mammies down to clean up after them, to have everything nice clean and ironed for Greece, (sing the song)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Would you sleep in a second hand sleeping bag ?

    I work in homeless services and I wouldn't expect anyone to sleep in a second hand sleeping bag.

    This is the problem with some people.

    Not alone do they expect charity they then get fooking picky about the type.

    Well tough shyte sunshine, you get a brand new sleeping bag when you pay for it yourself.
    That's the way it works for the normal people who have to buy stuff with their own hard earned cash.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    I was camping at the Silverstone racetrack last year, and on the last day I noticed a tent in a rubbish skip. If I was going to leave a tent behind, I certainly wouldn't go to the trouble of taking it down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    while I think that some of the festival goers are eejits and should be cleaning up after themselves, it really does come across as a sense of entitlement from the charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    What was he expecting ?
    Its a huge festival for young and maybe not so young people, where da people let go of themselves, In future folks better bring there mammies down to clean up after them, to have everything nice clean and ironed for Greece, (sing the song)

    "WE ALL LIVE ON THE YELLOW SUBMARINE"


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Director of a refugee charity looks at a scene after a festival, says it stinks of piss and booze...and compares it to...a refugee camp?

    That's almost funny. In a "laughing at his stupidity" way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    jmayo wrote: »
    This is the problem with some people.

    Not alone do they expect charity they then get fooking picky about the type.

    Well tough shyte sunshine, you get a brand new sleeping bag when you pay for it yourself.
    That's the way it works for the normal people who have to buy stuff with their own hard earned cash.


    ever thought about heading a homeless charity?

    is tough love all homeless need ?or a mixture of both,serious question btw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Skyfarm wrote: »
    ever thought about heading a homeless charity?

    is tough love all homeless need ?or a mixture of both,serious question btw

    Nah I have me eye on bigger fish.

    There is a job going in Olympic council with much better perks.

    Failing that it has to be rehab, then at a push ABI.
    And if all that doesn't pan out i hear there is an opening for a new suicide prevention charity.

    There is nothing wrong with a cleaned second hand sleeping bag,
    just like there is nothing wrong with somebody on welfare getting good clean second hand furniture rather than demanding they are provided with brand new furniture.

    The fooking sense of entitlement some people in this country have is astounding.
    And what is worse they are pandered to.

    BTW ever check out the thread about the fraud of a homeless campaigner who refused perfectly good offers of accommodation ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    maudgonner wrote: »
    If it has been cleaned, I certainly would.

    I sleep in hotel beds. I'm pretty sure they don't take new sheets out of the packet for each guest.

    That's a good point.
    Linen in hotels and hospitals is cleaned under hospital service with items being cleaned at temps between 90 and 95 degrees.They're designed for multiple washs over an extended period of time. And then returned in plastic packages.

    I doubt an average sleeping bag would survive that type of wash let alone would a charity be able to organise to collect clean and distribute.

    Within homeless services if you can't access a one night only bed you can collect a new bag and a couple of points in the city.They don't last more than a night or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    jmayo wrote: »
    This is the problem with some people.

    Not alone do they expect charity they then get fooking picky about the type.

    Well tough shyte sunshine, you get a brand new sleeping bag when you pay for it yourself.
    That's the way it works for the normal people who have to buy stuff with their own hard earned cash.

    Sunshine, that's the nicest thing I've been called all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Director of a refugee charity looks at a scene after a festival, says it stinks of piss and booze...and compares it to...a refugee camp?

    That's almost funny. In a "laughing at his stupidity" way.

    I remember back in the dark and distant past a photo someone took of the aftermath of a feile campsite the year everyone started burning their tents on the Monday. Just these little piles of smouldering material, palls of smoke and one long haired, dreadlocked survivor staggering through the early morning haze obviously wondering wtf had happened to his tent and where the fcuk were all the lads. The effect was added to by the fact that the photo was taken out of a car window on the move. Very funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Strange old thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    What were the refugees doing at the Electric Picnic?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    What were the refugees doing at the Electric Picnic?

    singing with Wyclef


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    those tents are cheap junk anyway

    does this charity expect migrants to spend a winter living in them:D

    Now is the winter of our discount tents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Strange old thread...

    Relax man, yer two tents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Relax man, yer two tents.

    Threads a bit in tents for some poster's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Threads a bit in tents for some poster's

    I blame the poles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    That's a good point.
    Linen in hotels and hospitals is cleaned under hospital service with items being cleaned at temps between 90 and 95 degrees.They're designed for multiple washs over an extended period of time. And then returned in plastic packages.

    I doubt an average sleeping bag would survive that type of wash let alone would a charity be able to organise to collect clean and distribute.

    Within homeless services if you can't access a one night only bed you can collect a new bag and a couple of points in the city.They don't last more than a night or two.


    If the charity weren't prepared to clean them, or they aren't suitable for being cleaned, and they're not suitable unless they are cleaned, then why did they appeal for them to be donated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Would you sleep in a second hand sleeping bag ?

    I work in homeless services and I wouldn't expect anyone to sleep in a second hand sleeping bag.

    I Slept in army sleeping bags for years. What is the difference? Most 2nd hand sleeping bags had one person using them - army ones would have had hundreds using them. You either need somewhere to kip or you don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    I Slept in army sleeping bags for years. What is the difference? Most 2nd hand sleeping bags had one person using them - army ones would have had hundreds using them. You either need somewhere to kip or you don't.

    Would an army bag not be a fairly decent quality bag ?.. id kinda guess uf festival goers abandoned bags en masse they might cheap ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Walter2016


    Pity the op didn't quote/read the entire article.

    The person in the article did say he didn't expect it to be any different and said he would have done the same years ago. He got over 300 tents and over a thousand sleeping bags.

    Quite happy and appreciative with his haul too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    maudgonner wrote: »
    If the charity weren't prepared to clean them, or they aren't suitable for being cleaned, and they're not suitable unless they are cleaned, then why did they appeal for them to be donated?

    I dont know why they asked for the bags.
    It's seems odd.. hostels have thier linen.. rough sleepers can access bags.


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