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tax I owe.

  • 30-08-2016 5:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18


    Hi guys.

    Was self employed from 2007-8 to 2011 in a partnership. Didn't pay any tax for 2009 2010 2011. Had to close down due to business slowed to a halt. Last year the partner who moved had bailiffs and sheriff at his door to take goods. He owed around 1000. They asked where I was but the partner didn't know. Said i owed less but wouldn't say exactly how much. I presume the didn't turn up at ny door was that they didn't know where i was. Fast forward to this year and while applying for a student grant they asked for tax evidence. I went into the revinue office two weeks ago and they said I had to de-register from the self employment (I thought I had already done so) to do that I had to fill a deregister form. I put my address on the form (good or bad thing?) my question is: Are bailiffs going to now show up at my door? Should I go in to the revinue office and ask how much I owe and if I can pay it in small weekly installments? Will they even deal with me? What's my best way to avoid the bailiff/sheriff? Is it too late?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    HTSteve wrote: »


    Was self employed from 2007-8 to 2011 in a partnership. Didn't pay any tax for 2009 2010 2011. Had to close down due to business slowed to a halt.

    Said i owed less but wouldn't say exactly how much. I presume the didn't turn up at my door was that they didn't know where i was.

    Should I go in to the revinue office and ask how much I owe and if I can pay it in small weekly installments? Will they even deal with me? What's my best way to avoid the bailiff/sheriff? Is it too late?

    The statement "didn't pay any tax for 2009-2011" is unclear. Did you generate enough income/profit to have been liable to pay tax for those years? And did you/the partnership make any tax returns? And have you received/ignored any tax demands from Revenue/Collector General over the past few years?

    If the answer is yes then you still owe the taxman and you probably also owe him interest (and possibly penalties) on the unpaid tax.

    Bluntly, you have two choices - either ignore the problem and watch it grow, or tackle it. And it's normally far better to approach Revenue rather than to sit back and wait for them to come to you - which, sooner or later, they will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 HTSteve


    Turnipman wrote: »
    The statement "didn't pay any tax for 2009-2011" is unclear. Did you generate enough income/profit to have been liable to pay tax for those years? And did you/the partnership make any tax returns? And have you received/ignored any tax demands from Revenue/Collector General over the past few years?

    If the answer is yes then you still owe the taxman and you probably also owe him interest (and possibly penalties) on the unpaid tax.

    Bluntly, you have two choices - either ignore the problem and watch it grow, or tackle it. And it's normally far better to approach Revenue rather than to sit back and wait for them to come to you - which, sooner or later, they will.

    The returns were generated by the accountant for those years but tax was never paid because we couldn't afford to pay him either. We were earning enough to have to pay tax yes but had other expenses. As far as I know we each had to pay tax separately. Once we closed down we moved separate ways. The bailiff showed up to him early last year but showed up to an old address and phoned him. so I can assume he was getting letters there and they assumed he was ignoring them. They asked hi where I was and he told them he thought I had immigrated. That's why I think they couldn't find me.
    Now I had to go into revenue about a problem with my grant and they said I was still down as "Self employed" and I had to fill a form to De-register as self employed. On that form I put my current address and details.

    Now that they know where I am I think they'll come straight to me.

    But will they send letters first? Or have they already been sending letters somewhere else? I wonder if i'll get a warning or if the bailiff/sheriff will just show up at my door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    HTSteve wrote: »
    Should I go in to the revinue office and ask how much I owe and if I can pay it in small weekly installments?

    Yes.

    You will have to face up to this sooner or later.

    The first step is finding out exactly how much damage you have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 HTSteve


    Yes.

    You will have to face up to this sooner or later.

    The first step is finding out exactly how much damage you have done.

    But will they listen to me? Will they accept installments? Or is it all down to the bailiff now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It is a problem that hit a good few as the downturn was so quick and severe. there wasn't any cash to pay revenue. Many had invoiced work and VAT but never got paid.
    You are not alone. Better approach the revenue and resolve.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Knowing the revenue, they'll force a draconian payment plan on you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    HTSteve wrote: »
    But will they listen to me? Will they accept installments? Or is it all down to the bailiff now?

    There's only one way to find out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    HTSteve wrote: »
    But will they listen to me? Will they accept installments? Or is it all down to the bailiff now?

    Yes they will but interest is lower on a bank loan than what revenue will demand.


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