To win both halfs...boylesports

drdeadlift

I bet on odense v horsens today,horsens to win both halfs.Horsens scored in the first half and the game ended 1-0 to horsesns.The bet was void after one of the agents sending me the rule

The 90 minute match is treated as two separate 45 minute 'mini-matches' and therefore your selection must score more goals than the other team in each of the two halves. For example, if your selection scores in the first half of a match and the match finishes 1-0, although the first half was won 1-0, the score in the second 45 minutes was effectively 0-0 and therefore a draw. If this occurs, only the first half is considered to have been 'won' and therefore bets would be losers.

In my eye that bet is advertised wrong.With the rules it means they have to score in both halfs..

easygoing39

I agree with Boyles,Horsens didnt win both halfs.What you are referring too is "double result",but you didnt bet on double result,as you clearly state you bet on Horsens to "win both halfs".

drdeadlift

True, i lick my wounds..Just pissed as i feel the requirement to score in both halfs isnt mentioned.anyways feck it

thelad95

drdeadlift wrote: »

True, i lick my wounds..Just pissed as i feel the requirement to score in both halfs isnt mentioned.anyways feck it

The bet you want is HT/FT then, boylesports offer both. Put it down to experience it's a mistake everyone makes at some stage

colinod

drdeadlift wrote: »

Just pissed as i feel the requirement to score in both halfs isnt mentioned.anyways feck it

Why should they mention it? most people would know you cant win without scoring

Steveirl2010

i am nearly embarrassed for boylesports how bad there service is and even worse there customer service.

Last night and tonight, cashout not working.
Even though the game in my bets are winning and are showing up in play to place a bet on any market.

spend over 2hrs onto tech chat last night.

If i placed the same bet with another bookie i know for sure cashout would have bee fine.
i gave boylesports benefit of the doubt this weekend. Wow how wrong was i.

they may aswell put on a balaclava and robbed me on the street because thats what i have had happened.

The issues i encountered last night are an absolute joke.
I had 2 soccer accumulators placed.

Bet Ref: xxx/xxx (6 team accum €5 Stake, 2 had won before Bilbao, Lazio & Monaco game kicked off followed by the Sporting Lisbon game)
1. At no stages during the 90 mins was cashout available, games were all suspended. (see screenshots sent in tech chat last night)
2. At the same time the games were in running from main page to place bets on each in running markets.
3. The cashout option says NEW beside it, so how was it tested inhouse when it wasnt available during the games last night?
4. All teams had won when sporting lisbon were 1-0 and i should have been offered a cashout away team equalised on 75th min)
5. I had the same bet on with Bet365 and i could cashout at all stages during the match apart from suspends when goal has scored, or red card, penalty etc.


Bet Ref: xxx/xxx (5 team accum €10 stake, Bilbao, Lazio, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon & Seville)
1. Again all teams had won and during the sporting lisbon game i should have been offered a cashout but was not.
2. The Seville game is being played tonight Monday 6th March.


I spent over 1hr in Tech Chat to last night and a further half hour onto another representive about the issues
I am discusted and appalled at the service.
I use bet365 a lot and Paddy Power and never have issues with Cashout during in running matches on my accumulator.
I would never have used Boylesports if there was no cashout.

Steve

jbt123

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

i am nearly embarrassed for boylesports how bad there service is and even worse there customer service.

Last night and tonight, cashout not working.
Even though the game in my bets are winning and are showing up in play to place a bet on any market.

spend over 2hrs onto tech chat last night.

If i placed the same bet with another bookie i know for sure cashout would have bee fine.
i gave boylesports benefit of the doubt this weekend. Wow how wrong was i.

they may aswell put on a balaclava and robbed me on the street because thats what i have had happened.

The issues i encountered last night are an absolute joke.
I had 2 soccer accumulators placed.

Bet Ref: xxx/xxx (6 team accum €5 Stake, 2 had won before Bilbao, Lazio & Monaco game kicked off followed by the Sporting Lisbon game)
1. At no stages during the 90 mins was cashout available, games were all suspended. (see screenshots sent in tech chat last night)
2. At the same time the games were in running from main page to place bets on each in running markets.
3. The cashout option says NEW beside it, so how was it tested inhouse when it wasnt available during the games last night?
4. All teams had won when sporting lisbon were 1-0 and i should have been offered a cashout away team equalised on 75th min)
5. I had the same bet on with Bet365 and i could cashout at all stages during the match apart from suspends when goal has scored, or red card, penalty etc.


Bet Ref: xxx/xxx (5 team accum €10 stake, Bilbao, Lazio, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon & Seville)
1. Again all teams had won and during the sporting lisbon game i should have been offered a cashout but was not.
2. The Seville game is being played tonight Monday 6th March.


I spent over 1hr in Tech Chat to last night and a further half hour onto another representive about the issues
I am discusted and appalled at the service.
I use bet365 a lot and Paddy Power and never have issues with Cashout during in running matches on my accumulator.
I would never have used Boylesports if there was no cashout.

Steve

I honestly despair.

You are embarassed that the bookie wouldn't give you a cash out on a bet that you placed and they were happy to let run?

The rules of gambling haven't changed regarding risk and reward.

Your risk with expectation of reward v their expected loss on the bet.

Their expectation of loss is built into any cash out or, in this case, they felt like there was no or minimal losses expected..

Put the money down and let the bet run.

whiteshorts

Put the money down and let the bet run.

The poster was making the point that he couldn't cash out with Boyles but would have been able to with others.
Cash out must be one of the biggest turnovers on football now as everybody (except maybe Boyles ) is doing it.
There are loads of people who have a pre-match bet to trade in running and take a profit.
A lot of people who have football accums for small stakes, would be happy to take a profit during the matches if they though it wasn;t going to come in.
Not sure if there's any stats for it but would be interesting to see what the % of bets are cashed out and what % would have been winners or losers if left to end?

Division

If your intention is to cash out the final leg of your accumulator why would you include the final leg at all?

Cash out is bad value & you need the final team to be winning at some point.

You're basically giving money to the bookie using that technique.

Either let it run or don't include it in the first place.

Division

To fully check the logic of your approach look at the percentage of the time that the final team takes the lead & goes on to win when they take the lead.

If its a very high percentage which I believe it will be considering you bet on favourites then the cash out strategy is the worst option versus not including the final leg.

Shanotheslayer

Division wrote: »

If your intention is to cash out the final leg of your accumulator why would you include the final leg at all?

Cash out is bad value & you need the final team to be winning at some point.

You're basically giving money to the bookie using that technique.

Either let it run or don't include it in the first place.

I've always had an interesting theory on stuff like this

For example

Say you have 4 bets in accumulator.

Lets say it returns EVENS if all 4 win.

So we add in a 5th bet. a 3/1 shot.

So 4 bets returns evens the 5th obviously a booster. So the 3/1 shot is the last leg, all other 4 have landed.

The cash out would be higher than evens no?

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

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Lets say it returns EVENS if all 4 win.

So we add in a 5th bet. a 3/1 shot.

So 4 bets returns evens the 5th obviously a booster. So the 3/1 shot is the last leg, all other 4 have landed.

The cash out would be higher than evens no?

So you have for example €50 (after staking €25 at evens successfully) going on to a 3/1 shot. Before the 3/1 shot events kicks off you reckon the cashout offered will be more than the €50 you have on the selection?

Division

The cashout in @Augeos example would be €48 or less.

If you didn't include the final bet you would have had €50.

€2/€25 = 8% of your stake that you would basically just give to the bookie by including the last leg and cashing out pre game.

In gambling terms thats the whole show as *professional gamblers generally have a 4%-8% ROI.