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  • 28-08-2016 10:34am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering why construction stops on this project at night and on Sundays?

    Surely this should be a 24/7 hour operation?


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would you like a work crew outside your bedroom window at 3AM?

    I doubt that anyone would welcome them at that time of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭GreatDefector


    Just wondering why construction stops on this project at night and on Sundays?

    Surely this should be a 24/7 hour operation?

    Plus overtime costs would have a serious impact on construction costs making a project like this too expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    There are certain works carried out late like that but not usually the loud types of works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    Would you like a work crew outside your bedroom window at 3AM?

    I doubt that anyone would welcome them at that time of the day.

    To be fair I wouldn't but surely there are some areas or stages of construction

    that can be done with little or no interruption to residential areas?

    I am referring to the city centre, O'Connell Street / Bridge and the immediate areas near that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    To be fair I wouldn't but surely there are some areas or stages of construction

    that can be done with little or no interruption to residential areas?

    I am referring to the city centre, O'Connell Street / Bridge and the immediate areas near that!

    Ummm...hotels?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    The Quite Fella seek the answer within...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    lxflyer wrote: »
    Ummm...hotels?

    New York doesn't shut down for any man, woman or child.

    I don't see why the same reasoning shouldn't apply here also?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    Lets just say for arguments sake that 2 months (Sunday X 52) are not worked.
    Lets assume that they start at 08:00 and finish at 18:00 (I don't know!)

    That's 14hrs X 6 days a week that it's just sitting there (4 Days approx' including the Sunday)
    So in my reasoning in a year of 365 days it equates to roughly 200 days
    in lost time that could or should be spent working on the line.
    That's more than half of a year!!!

    The sooner it starts doing what its supposed to do it will start paying for itself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Lets just say for arguments sake that 2 months (Sunday X 52) are not worked.
    Lets assume that they start at 08:00 and finish at 18:00 (I don't know!)

    That's 14hrs X 6 days a week that it's just sitting there (4 Days approx' including the Sunday)
    So in my reasoning in a year of 365 days it equates to roughly 200 days
    in lost time that could or should be spent working on the line.
    That's more than half of a year!!!

    The sooner it starts doing what its supposed to do it will start paying for itself!

    Some years back,the Light Rail Project Office/RPA brought over one of the best known and highly regarded Light Rail Engineers, Prof Manuel Melis from Madrid (Known as 3M) to advise and offer his opinion on how Dubliners should go about it...

    His advice was rather strikingly simple...
    1. Keep it simple.
    2. Agree a plan.
    3. Commence work only when ALL agencies are fully compliant with that Plan.
    4. Once started,all work continue 24/7/365 until complete.
    5. Commence Revenue Operations.

    Perhaps equally unsurprisingly,Senor Melis's simplistic and provenly feasible suggestions (He had successfully brought the Madrid Metro to completion underbudget and on-time) were pooh-pooh'd by our native magnificents,who,after all knew better about the ways of the Gael,than some Spaniard....:rolleyes:

    Anyway,even if it is 13 years ago,the refusal of our people to take good advice has cost us dearly.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/going-off-the-rails-1.364329
    The implications of the agency's costings revision for the metro link to Dublin Airport, are still sinking in. The sudden, colossal reduction, from €4.8 billion to €3.4 billion, was equal to a quarter of the annual cost of our entire education system.

    That was stunning enough until Prof Manuel Melis, the president of the Madrid metro system (which built theirs for a billion), announced that the job could be done for €1.5 billion. That's less than a third of the RPA's original estimate.

    The professor told the Oireachtas Committee on Transport that increased costs were being caused by over-staffing and time-wasting. "Useless staff that are costing too much money should be dismissed. Here you have five times the amount of staff we had to build a metro service in Madrid."

    If I remember correctly,the RPA lads brought Manuel and his people to Guinness's and after a few pints,had him back on a flight to Madrid pronto...amigo...PRONTO.....Merciful hour...how could he say that stuff out loud !!!!!

    Some will say that Things have changed.....won't they ???? :)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    That is harrowing reading!


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