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4 month driving ban in europe can I obtain my license from Ireland if I returned to I

  • 25-08-2016 7:48pm
    #1
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭


    I have just received a four month driving ban in Europe and will get my licence back in December. My question is: by coming back to Ireland how will I receive my licence. Must I stay in Europe until December? I just need advise on this matter or who should I possibly contact with regard to this query. Ta


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  • #2
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    budgie35 wrote: »
    I have just received a four month driving ban in Europe and will get my licence back in December. My question is: by coming back to Ireland how will I receive my licence. Must I stay in Europe until December? I just need advise on this matter or who should I possibly contact with regard to this query. Ta

    Interesting question but Europe is a place with many different countries all with different criminal legal systems.


  • #3
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    budgie35 wrote: »
    I have just received a four month driving ban in Europe and will get my licence back in December

    Do you have an Irish driving license or a foreign licence or both?

    And as PHV asked, in which country have you been disqualified from driving?


  • #4
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    budgie35 wrote: »
    I have just received a four month driving ban in Europe and will get my licence back in December. My question is: by coming back to Ireland how will I receive my licence. Must I stay in Europe until December? I just need advise on this matter or who should I possibly contact with regard to this query. Ta

    Interesting question but Europe is a place with many different countries all with different criminal legal systems.
    france does that help with my query sorry


  • #5
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    Pat Mustard wrote: »
    budgie35 wrote: »
    I have just received a four month driving ban in Europe and will get my licence back in December

    Do you have an Irish driving license or a foreign licence or both?

    And as PHV asked, in which country have you been disqualified from driving?
    just an irish driving licence and it happened in france


  • #6
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    budgie35 wrote: »
    just an irish driving licence and it happened in france

    And they took your physical licence off you?


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  • #7
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    Stheno wrote: »
    budgie35 wrote: »
    just an irish driving licence and it happened in france

    And they took your physical licence off you?
    Yes for 4 months thanks


  • #8
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    You have been disqualified in France and you have surrendered your Irish licence there. I presume that you have not been disqualified in Ireland but you may correct me if I am wrong.

    Not wishing to cross the line to give legal advice (which is not allowed by forum charter) but if you are not disqualified in Ireland, is there anything to stop you from applying to replace your Irish driving licence in Ireland?

    I see that NDLS will replace lost, stolen or damaged licences but your licence has been confiscated by the French authorities. Perhaps you could ask NDLS about your situation.

    https://www.ndls.ie/how-to-apply.html#where-you-are-applying-for-a-replacement-for-a-lost-stolen-licence-you-must-submit


  • #9
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Pat Mustard wrote: »
    You have been disqualified in France and you have surrendered your Irish licence there. I presume that you have not been disqualified in Ireland but you may correct me if I am wrong.

    Not wishing to cross the line to give legal advice (which is not allowed by forum charter) but if you are not disqualified in Ireland, is there anything to stop you from applying to replace your Irish driving licence in Ireland?

    I see that NDLS will replace lost, stolen or damaged licences but your licence has been confiscated by the French authorities. Perhaps you could ask NDLS about your situation.

    https://www.ndls.ie/how-to-apply.html#where-you-are-applying-for-a-replacement-for-a-lost-stolen-licence-you-must-submit

    Would that not require making a false declaration that your licence was lost, stolen or damaged?


  • #10
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Would that not require making a false declaration that your licence was lost, stolen or damaged?

    I presume that the OP does not wish to put himself in such a position. Therefore, the suggestion was made that that he should enquire of the NDLS whether they would agree to replace his licence, in circumstances where it has been confiscated by French authorities.


  • #11
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I wonder is the driving licence similar to the passport in that it's effectively property of the state? Should the French authorities be surrendering the licence to the local embassy?


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  • #12
    Matt Murdock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭Matt Murdock


    The way it works in Austria is that your licence is returned to the embassy on completion of any ban. You have to travel to Vienna to recover it.

    If the licence is not retrieved within a certain time scale the embassy returns it to NDLS and they void the licence.


  • #13
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Matt Murdock wrote: »
    If the licence is not retrieved within a certain time scale the embassy returns it to NDLS and they void the licence.

    Do you have a link to support this?


  • #14
    Matt Murdock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭Matt Murdock


    No link sorry.

    It happened to a business associate of mine. He tried to be cute and told NDLS that he had "lost" his licence.
    He wasn't so cute when about 6 months later the embassy returned his original licence to Ireland. This was followed by a "please come in for a chat" letter.


  • #15
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    Matt Murdock wrote: »
    No link sorry.

    It happened to a business associate of mine. He tried to be cute and told NDLS that he had "lost" his licence.
    He wasn't so cute when about 6 months later the embassy returned his original licence to Ireland. This was followed by a "please come in for a chat" letter.
    Cheers thanks for the update I'll just wait it out its best option I think ta for the update your super


  • #16
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    What did you get disqualified for? *Curious*

    Give the RSA or the NDLS a call. They'll advise you.


  • #17
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    drink related, i contacted NDLS so waiting to hear thanks for the help


  • #18
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Mod note:

    No posts regarding the immorality of drink driving, please. No "high horse" moralizing posts either. Such posts only mention the obvious, add nothing to legal discussion, drag the discussion off topic and have been absolutely done to death, previously. We'll keep on topic with legal discussion.


  • #19
    budgie35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭budgie35


    Another problem, I have received a document to change to a French licence. I don't want to as if I decide to return to Ireland I want my Irish licence. If I wait to get my Irish licence back after 4 months then I can go to Ireland with my licence.





    Mod:

    Request for legal advice redacted from this post. Please note the rule against legal advice.


  • #20
    shrapnel222
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    the thing is, you are perfectly entitled to drive in France with your Irish licence as long as it is valid, however, as soon as you get points, a suspension or a disqualification, then you are obliged to exchange it, which is very possibly why they kept it and have now sent you the paperwork in order to finish the exchange.

    Once done they will then send you a French licence, which you will then able able to exchange back to an Irish one in due course.


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