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18month old hef got bult without me knowing and is about to calf, help !!!

  • 25-08-2016 8:21am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭


    I have a pet heffer, black white head, who is only 18 months old and got bult to a jersey freishan cross with out me knowing. I only noticed when she started to spring. I thought she was springing because another hef was sucking her but there is now no mistake she is in calf and at most due in two weeks. She is also slightly over weight. I don't have much experience so all advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm in a bit of a panic to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Get the local vets number, and save it in your phone. Ask a neighbour if they will help when the time comes, with practical help and perhaps the loan of a calving jack.
    Thank your lucky stars it wasn't a Belgian Blue or Charolais bull, a Friesian/Jersey should be a handy little calf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Get a bag of pre calver minerals for her and give some to her every day and put her on hay if you have any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Get a bag of pre calver minerals for her and give some to her every day and put her on hay if you have any.
    Rolled oats too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    In the very worst case, you will have to do a caesarean. Usually I find it is the ones that you worry about that turn out just fine.
    Get the vets number on your phone and maybe keep her in a shed with another quiet animal as she gets closer to calving. You don't want to be chasing her around a field in the middle of the night trying to get her in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    In the very worst case, you will have to do a caesarean. Usually I find it is the ones that you worry about that turn out just fine.
    Get the vets number on your phone and maybe keep her in a shed with another quiet animal as she gets closer to calving. You don't want to be chasing her around a field in the middle of the night trying to get her in.

    If she's overweight she would need plenty of exercise to be fit for calving.
    Put her on hay and some rolled oats with minerals. Ensure she has a bit of a walk to get to water. This should help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    If your heifer is bagging up today then you won't have to wait two weeks for her to calve, it'll be a lot sooner than that I'd say.
    Maybe you could get a neighbour with experience of calving cows to look at her and advise you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    If she's overweight she would need plenty of exercise to be fit for calving.
    Put her on hay and some rolled oats with minerals. Ensure she has a bit of a walk to get to water. This should help.

    She's not going to loose much weight in a couple of days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    She's not going to loose much weight in a couple of days.

    She's only starting to spring. I've seen plenty heifers showing a bag for a couple of weeks before calving.
    Maybe we should open a book on how long before she calves!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    She's only starting to spring. I've seen plenty heifers showing a bag for a couple of weeks before calving.
    Maybe we should open a book on how long before she calves!

    I had heifers starting to spring in October that weren't going to calve until March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭GreatOaktree


    She's been springing for a few weeks. I sold the bull on the Saturday before Christmas so she's due sometime between now and 4 weeks time. I have a jack at the ready and a neighbour on stand by if I need him. But when should I call the vet ? How long is too long ? Thanks for all the replies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    I wouldn't worry too much on her, keep an eye on her though. I bet she calves no problem. Jersey bull, should be a slip of a calf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    The worst thing you can do is go pulling too soon and get the head out and then get stuck. The best thing is to call your neighbour when the feet show. Anyone worth their salt will make a judgement call on the size of the legs and how open she is. Give her lots of time. The simple rule of thumb is that if she's properly lined up and can't get the head out herself then you may be looking at a section. Then call the vet.

    You neighbour should be able to make these judgement calls with you so no need to panic.

    If you are fretting about it, call the vet as soon as you see the "blister/feet". The last thing you need is to get stuck and not have a clue what you're supposed to do next!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    mythos110 wrote: »
    The worst thing you can do is go pulling too soon and get the head out and then get stuck. The best thing is to call your neighbour when the feet show. Anyone worth their salt will make a judgement call on the size of the legs and how open she is. Give her lots of time. The simple rule of thumb is that if she's properly lined up and can't get the head out herself then you may be looking at a section. Then call the vet.

    You neighbour should be able to make these judgement calls with you so no need to panic.

    If you are fretting about it, call the vet as soon as you see the "blister/feet". The last thing you need is to get stuck and not have a clue what you're supposed to do next!
    Reading that should calm him right down.

    A heifer 18 months and I calf to Jersey bull should have no bother calving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I have a pet heffer, black white head, who is only 18 months old and got bult to a jersey freishan cross with out me knowing. I only noticed when she started to spring. I thought she was springing because another hef was sucking her but there is now no mistake she is in calf and at most due in two weeks. She is also slightly over weight. I don't have much experience so all advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm in a bit of a panic to be honest.

    I presume you are dry cattle only because of no knowledge of calving but where does this jex bull come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Reading that should calm him right down.

    A heifer 18 months and I calf to Jersey bull should have no bother calving.

    I agree it should be no bother but as the OP seems to have no experience then no point in waiting until the moment of truth to find out what can go wrong!

    Better to know the worst case and hope for the best case than the other way around!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    A heifer 18 months and I calf to Jersey bull should have no bother calving.

    This is what is be saying too.
    Get your neighbour on board, give him a bell when you think she's sick to calve and let him make the judgement call from there.
    Best of luck with her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Reading that should calm him right down.

    A heifer 18 months and I calf to Jersey bull should have no bother calving.

    Someone with common sense, leave her alone. let her get on with her job, no use in meeting trouble half way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Like the above advice, I wouldn't panic as chances are she will calve OK and you have a neighbour around to help out with experience anyhow .

    For after the calving it mightn't be any harm to have a bit of beastings on hand incase she hasn't enough milk or anything like that happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭stantheman1979


    Listen the 1st thing is don't panic!! When you see her start note the time and leave her to it. Check her every half hour quietly and from a distance if possible. After 2 hrs if she isn't making progress put you're hand in and feel for two legs and head coming the right way, and feel how tight she is. If you think she's ok leave her off. She'll work away herself!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    Get a good safe area to calve her down in and a few gates lying around and a couple of clean buckets in case you do need a section, get a bottle of calving lube and have a decent light in the shed in case you do need to give her a section. I wouldn't be the slightest bit worried about her if it's a friesain cross jersey bull, she should fart it out. Remember it's only a heifer and if your not used to calving cows that they can get steamy no matter how quiet they seem.


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