Notice while out sick

Tasbuny

Hi there can yous help me please how do I hand in my notice while I'm out sick. Can someone help me please.

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bilbot79

Tasbuny wrote: »

Hi there can yous help me please how do I hand in my notice while I'm out sick. Can someone help me please.

Is this really a question?

Phone, send a letter...

davo10

Tasbuny wrote: »

Hi there can yous help me please how do I hand in my notice while I'm out sick. Can someone help me please.

It'll be in your contract of employment. Usually it's by 9am in the morning by phone to your manager, but check if you need a cert from your GP, usually this is after 3 days absence but again check your contract.

Stheno

davo10 wrote: »

It'll be in your contract of employment. Usually it's by 9am in the morning by phone to your manager, but check if you need a cert from your GP, usually this is after 3 days absence but again check your contract.

I think they are looking to resign?

Tasbuny

bilbot79 wrote: »

Is this really a question?

Phone, send a letter...

Yes it is a question

Tasbuny

Stheno wrote: »

I think they are looking to resign?

Ye I'm looking to resign thanks.

Tasbuny

davo10 wrote: »

It'll be in your contract of employment. Usually it's by 9am in the morning by phone to your manager, but check if you need a cert from your GP, usually this is after 3 days absence but again check your contract.

Maybe I should have worded it a bit better Ye I'm looking to resign.

lapua20grain

Tasbuny wrote: »

Yes it is a question

All you have to do is write a letter of resignation and ensure that it is delivered to your employer stating how much notice you are giving them. If you are female and pregnant your employer cannot accept your resignation. The notice requirements in your contract is not particularly binding and if you want to give them shorter notice you can. best of luck

nhunter100

Tasbuny wrote:

Maybe I should have worded it a bit better Ye I'm looking to resign.

If you are absent due to sickness, surely you are not in a position to work in your notice period?

Tasbuny

They might make me work notice. Even though I am sick.

lapua20grain

Tasbuny wrote: »

They might make me work notice. Even though I am sick.

no if you are sick your absence can count towards your notice

Loveinapril

I resigned from a job whilst on sick leave and the actual date on my P45 was a month after I gave notice. I was resigning due to my illness, so working the notice was not an option.

Shadow1983

lapua20grain wrote:

If you are female and pregnant your employer cannot accept your resignation.

Don't want to drag the thread off topic but why is this??

davo10

lapua20grain wrote: »

All you have to do is write a letter of resignation and ensure that it is delivered to your employer stating how much notice you are giving them. If you are female and pregnant your employer cannot accept your resignation. The notice requirements in your contract is not particularly binding and if you want to give them shorter notice you can. best of luck

This is a strange post. Are you saying that a pregnant woman cannot quite her job and move to another one? Surely that would be discrimination on both gender and pregnancy grounds by the employer.

Also, why wouldn't notice periods agreed by an employee when signing a contract be binding?

Any person, male or female, sick or not, pregnant or not is free to resign at any time giving the required notice in accordance with their contract.

lapua20grain

Shadow1983 wrote: »

Don't want to drag the thread off topic but why is this??

as a pregnant woman because of hormonal changes may not be making the right decisions so if she hands her notice in you can refuse and offer health and safety leave so she can reflect on her decision. this was advice i received from IBEC when one of my employees was pregnant and handed in her notice. this is not a form of discrimination but a protection built in so a decision made in haste is not repented in leisure as pregnant ladies have serious protection when it comes to employment law.

lapua20grain

davo10 wrote: »

This is a strange post. Are you saying that a pregnant woman cannot quite her job and move to another one? Surely that would be discrimination on both gender and pregnancy grounds by the employer.

Also, why wouldn't notice periods agreed by an employee when signing a contract be binding?

Any person, male or female, sick or not, pregnant or not is free to resign at any time giving the required notice in accordance with their contract.

the legal requirement for notice from an employee is
13 weeks to 2 years 1 week
2 years to 5 years 2 weeks
5 years to 10 years 4 weeks
10 years to 15 years 6 weeks
15 years or more 8 weeks
but according to legislation you can come to mutual agreement to waive your right to notice so you can with mutual consent hand in immediate notice.

davo10

lapua20grain wrote: »

the legal requirement for notice from an employee is
13 weeks to 2 years 1 week
2 years to 5 years 2 weeks
5 years to 10 years 4 weeks
10 years to 15 years 6 weeks
15 years or more 8 weeks
but according to legislation you can come to mutual agreement to waive your right to notice so you can with mutual consent hand in immediate notice.

Legal MINIMUM requirement. This can be extended by agreement in contract of employment.

davo10

lapua20grain wrote: »

as a pregnant woman because of hormonal changes may not be making the right decisions so if she hands her notice in you can refuse and offer health and safety leave so she can reflect on her decision. this was advice i received from IBEC when one of my employees was pregnant and handed in her notice. this is not a form of discrimination but a protection built in so a decision made in haste is not repented in leisure as pregnant ladies have serious protection when it comes to employment law.

That is the craziest thing I have heard from IBEC. Effectively they advised you to refuse to acknowledge your employee's right to give notice and leave, because she is pregnant. Of course you can refuse to accept a resignation, but to do so solely on the grounds of pregnancy would surely come under discrimination due to pregnancy, potentially cause stress to the employee and prevent the employee from moving to another job if they want too. What do you gain as an employer by refusing it?

I have heard of verbal resignations being recanted, but not written ones forwarded and accepted as agreed in the contract.

Sorry this is not relevant to the op's situation, but it is an interesting aside.

Buffman

Tasbuny wrote: »

Hi there can yous help me please how do I hand in my notice while I'm out sick. Can someone help me please.

These days email is acceptable so that's probably your easiest way. Keep it short and polite would be my advice. No need to give any reason either.

lapua20grain wrote: »

the legal requirement for notice from an employee is
13 weeks to 2 years 1 week
2 years to 5 years 2 weeks
5 years to 10 years 4 weeks
10 years to 15 years 6 weeks
15 years or more 8 weeks
but according to legislation you can come to mutual agreement to waive your right to notice so you can with mutual consent hand in immediate notice.

That's the requirement for the employer giving notice, the employee only legally has to give one week regardless of service. Although any employer who doesn't have a longer period in the contract is asking for trouble.

An employer shall, subject to the right of an employee to give counter-notice under section 10 of the Act of 1967 or to give notice of intention to claim redundancy payment in respect of lay-off or short-time under section 12 of that Act, be entitled to not less than one week's notice from an employee who has been in his continuous employment for thirteen weeks or more of that employee's intention to terminate his contract of employment.

Mrs OBumble

lapua20grain wrote: »

as a pregnant woman because of hormonal changes may not be making the right decisions so if she hands her notice in you can refuse and offer health and safety leave so she can reflect on her decision. this was advice i received from IBEC when one of my employees was pregnant and handed in her notice. this is not a form of discrimination but a protection built in so a decision made in haste is not repented in leisure as pregnant ladies have serious protection when it comes to employment law.

I'm sorry, but employment contracts contain a clause which says something like "This agreement may be terminated by either party, in accordance with Unfair Dismissals Act, by giving appropriate notice".

That's not the right legalese, of course, but basically either party has the right to terminate the employment - with some legal restrictions on the employer.

There are no legal restrictions that I know of on when the employee is allowed to resign their employment. If they want to resign, then can damn well do it any time, provided they give the agreed notice.

Employers can do pretendee things and make like they're not accepting the resignation. But I'm not aware of any legal basis for this: they cannot force someone to keep working for them.



OP - to resign while on sick leave, just do the same thing you would to do resign normally: send them a letter saying "I resign, effective from XXX", where XXX = today's date plus you notice.

If it just happens that you're out sick for the entire time you're on notice - so be it.

livedadream

Dear boss.

Please consider this my official notice of resignation.

Due to ongoing health issues I will not be able to work the agreed notice.

I will continue to submit GP notes until I am fit to work and will return to work my notice if it improves within my notice period.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Regards
tasbuny

this

lapua20grain =If you are female and pregnant your employer cannot accept your resignation.

is ridiculous. pregnant women quit their jobs all the time, some dont return to work after getting preggers some quit before during or after mat leave.

livedadream

lapua20grain wrote: »

as a pregnant woman because of hormonal changes may not be making the right decisions so if she hands her notice in you can refuse and offer health and safety leave so she can reflect on her decision. this was advice i received from IBEC when one of my employees was pregnant and handed in her notice. this is not a form of discrimination but a protection built in so a decision made in haste is not repented in leisure as pregnant ladies have serious protection when it comes to employment law.

again and im saying it for effect more than anything now but this is the most ridiculous thing i have read on boards in a long time,

you are saying,

someone in IBEC told you that pregnant women are not of sound mind to enter into or terminate a contact.

that is by far the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard in my years of working in HR and employment law.

so much so that im literally ringing my rep in IBEC now to tell them this nonsense is being spread.

davo10 wrote: »

That is the craziest thing I have heard from IBEC.

never happened thats why it sounds so crazy.

davo10 wrote: »

Effectively they advised you to refuse to acknowledge your employee's right to give notice and leave, because she is pregnant. Of course you can refuse to accept a resignation, but to do so solely on the grounds of pregnancy would surely come under discrimination due to pregnancy, potentially cause stress to the employee and prevent the employee from moving to another job if they want too.

because all pregnant women are hormonal nut cases who are deemed Non compos mentis apparently, better go tell the 3 ladies i have working i finance and comp and bens downstairs to go home, in case they go postal due to their hormones lolz :D:D:D

2RockMountain

lapua20grain wrote: »

as a pregnant woman because of hormonal changes may not be making the right decisions so if she hands her notice in you can refuse and offer health and safety leave so she can reflect on her decision. this was advice i received from IBEC when one of my employees was pregnant and handed in her notice. this is not a form of discrimination but a protection built in so a decision made in haste is not repented in leisure as pregnant ladies have serious protection when it comes to employment law.

Sounds like somebody from IBEC was bit hormonal on the day they gave that advice!

Would the same apply depending on the female staff member's menstrual cycle, and how hormonal she might be? Or the young dad who's child is in hospital and how he might be making rash decisions? Or the transgender employee who may be on hormonal medication?

It's a nonsense.