Tactical pen

jenny smith

A book I read mentions a tactical pen. apparently this is a pen that includes sort of tools that that can used in self defence .Is such a pen legal in Ireland

johnnyskeleton

jenny smith wrote: »

A book I read mentions a tactical pen. apparently this is a pen that includes sort of tools that that can used in self defence .Is such a pen legal in Ireland

Like an ability to write "please dont assault me" in large, friendly letters?

Del2005

jenny smith wrote: »

A book I read mentions a tactical pen. apparently this is a pen that includes sort of tools that that can used in self defence .Is such a pen legal in Ireland

Since a nail file or screwdriver can be considered a weapon in this country, something called tactical for self defence use is not going to be legal.

riffmongous

9.—(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), where a person has with him in any public place any knife or any other article which has a blade or which is sharply pointed, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(2) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place.

(3) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (2), it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that he had the article with him for use at work or for a recreational purpose.

(4) Where a person, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the onus of proving which shall lie on him), has with him in any public place—

(a) any flick-knife, or

(b) any other article whatsoever made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person,

he shall be guilty of an offence.

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I would say illegal, I doubt anyone would believe you had a proper need for such a pen

Kings Inns or bust

jenny smith wrote: »

A book I read mentions a tactical pen. apparently this is a pen that includes sort of tools that that can used in self defence .Is such a pen legal in Ireland

Perfectly legal, you just can't walk around with it or use it on anyone.

Grolschevik

Sure McGuyver could make a machine gun out of a Biro; none of yer oul' "tactical" guff...

plodder

Well, they say it's mightier than the sword. So, that must make it illegal.

Pkiernan

I have one of these pens. I carry it in my pocket when going in to town.

Perfectly legal. You can even bring them on planes.

http://www.benchmade.com/pens/1100-pen-series.html

Timberrrrrrrr

I bought a bunch of these of one of the Chinese sites a while back, handy to have in the wallet (yes I do have a reasonable excuse to carry it there) but what surprised me more i's the amount of times I have been through airport security with them in my wallet and never been pulled over for it. No intention to take it through I just forget that I have it in there

https://youtu.be/kS7X_1t0Hvw

Widdershins

Pkiernan wrote: »

I have one of these pens. I carry it in my pocket when going in to town.

Perfectly legal. You can even bring them on planes.

http://www.benchmade.com/pens/1100-pen-series.html

Wow, expensive What's special about that one?

gctest50

Grolschevik wrote: »

Sure McGuyver could make a machine gun out of a Biro; none of yer oul' "tactical" guff...

no machine gun but anyway :

PaulieBoy

Back of a matchbox calculations: you have a 0.34% chance of being assaulted, it's less, but the CSO stats don't break out assault on its own and lump in Attempts/threats to murder, assaults, harassments and related offences.
So the reality is you are highly unlikely to be a victim of such a crime.
One could argue that carrying a tactical pen actually may well increase your potential danger: you may have a greater, and ultimately false, sense of security and expose yourself to situations you may otherwise have avoided. The assailant could easily disarm you and turn your tactical pen on you. You may, stupidity, decide to try defend your self rather than taking the far safer option of legging it!
Unless you train frequently for such situations your best bet is to leave such devices in the hands of gun tooting Americans who fear impending Armageddon and the imminent Zombie invasion!

Peregrinus

Widdershins wrote: »

Wow, expensive What's special about that one?

Not much, as far as I can see. It's made of aluminium, which makes it more durable than an ordinary pen, but it's only 13 cm long and only weighs 37g, so it's nowhere near long enough or heavy enough to have a bit of heft as a blunt instrument. And it has no blade, unless you count the nib, which is a bit of a stretch.

Unless I'm missing something, I'd have to say that the tactical value of this pen is negligible. It should stand up well to impact, though, so if you're involved in a car crash and have to sign hospital admission papers immediately afterwards` you'll have a working pen, but that's about it.

Pat Mustard

It's a bit like having a tactical dinner fork, except you can write with it.

Grolschevik

It has a sort of pointy bit at the non-nib end that might hurt if you were jabbed with it. But being stabbed with a Biro would probably be worse.

plodder

what about a pointed stick ....?

riffmongous

Pkiernan wrote: »

I have one of these pens. I carry it in my pocket when going in to town.

Perfectly legal. You can even bring them on planes.

http://www.benchmade.com/pens/1100-pen-series.html

Legal as in a guard found you carrying it and gave you the ok? Or legal as in you used it to defend yourself and a judge gave you the ok? Or legal as in I carry it and haven't got into trouble

gctest50

Pkiernan wrote: »

I have one of these pens. I carry it in my pocket when going in to town.

Perfectly legal. You can even bring them on planes.

http://www.benchmade.com/pens/1100-pen-series.html

Pkiernan wrote: »

You can even bring them on planes....

What an odd thing to say, what do you plan doing with it on a plane ?

Kings Inns or bust

Writing things down, defeating a hijacker, defending one's self once arriving in Glasgow.

Kings Inns or bust

This really is some of the best salesmanship I've ever seen:

Blade Edge No
Blade Finish/Color No
Blade Style/Shape No
Clip Type No
Clip Position No
Glass Breaker No
Handle Material No
Lanyard Hole No
MOLLE Compatible No
Sheath Type No
Use Every Day, Tactical

It's got no features but it's still an everyday, tactical.

Peregrinus

Well, in fairness, no particular tactics are specified. This pen is highly tactical if your chosen tactics include "writing stuff down", "drawing pictures and diagrams" and "ticking boxes on forms".

For just US$125, you get a pen that doesn't just write words. <<Mod:Deleted. rude>>

Dyr

People have had ordinary biros stuck in them. Tactical pen/ self defence pen or whatever is capable of penetrating humans. Not the best idea in Ireland

gavindublin

It's in the shape of a kubaton. It's made to sit a certain way in your hand, the way you grip it helps with a fist striking. And the pointed edge is used to manipulate pressure points.

well I think it is 😂😂😂