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Jaffa cakes

  • 17-08-2016 6:39pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭


    I'm having an argument over Jaffa Cakes.

    Are they biscuits or cakes?

    I'm thinking biscuits because you don't get 12 cakes in a packet. So that makes it a pack of biscuits.

    Other person says cakes but i disagree.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    They are always in the biscuit section in shops so definitely classified as biscuits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭failinis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Biscuits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    If it goes hard when stale it's a cake, if it goes soft when stale it's a biscuit.
    Jaffa Cakes are cakes, it's in the ****** name.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    They are legally cakes as a result of a major court case taken by McVities against HM Customs as the VAT rates are different.

    http://www.kerseys.co.uk/blog/jaffa-cakes-cakes-biscuits/


    It all hinged on the fact that stale biscuits go soft and cake goes hard. Stale Jaffa Cakes are hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    They're gross thats what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Have you ever seen a Jaffa cake with a candle?

    Case closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    The product's classification as a cake or biscuit was part of a VAT tribunal in 1991, with the court finding in McVitie's favour that the Jaffa Cake should be considered a cake for tax purposes. In 2012 they were ranked the best selling cake or biscuit in the United Kingdom.

    Googling is simple to do. You should try it some time.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    kneemos wrote: »
    Have you ever seen a Jaffa cake with a candle?

    Case closed.

    Yes, once.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    The Raptor wrote: »
    I'm having an argument over Jaffa Cakes.

    Are they biscuits or cakes?

    I'm thinking biscuits because you don't get 12 cakes in a packet. So that makes it a pack of biscuits.

    Other person says cakes but i disagree.

    But not all packets of biscuits come in packets of 12. Plenty of them, have more or less than 12.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Senna wrote: »
    If it goes hard when stale it's a cake, if it goes soft when stale it's a biscuit.
    Jaffa Cakes are cakes, it's in the ****** name.

    Well has anyone left a jaffa cake out long enough to get stale?

    Bread gets stale also. Doesn't make it a cake, does it?

    So its a biscuit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    But not all packets of biscuits come in packets of 12. Plenty of them, have more or less than 12.

    It still makes it a packet of biscuits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    The Raptor wrote: »
    It still makes it a packet of biscuits.
    Which is immaterial as we are discussing a packet of Jaffe CAKES. It's the same as the packets of those Cadbury chocolate rolls - Cakes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Which is immaterial as we are discussing a packet of Jaffe CAKES. It's the same as the packets of those Cadbury chocolate rolls - Cakes.

    Jaffa Cakes is just a name on the packet of biscuits just like hob nobs is on the packet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Jaffa Pie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    The Raptor wrote: »
    Well has anyone left a jaffa cake out long enough to get stale?

    Bread gets stale also. Doesn't make it a cake, does it?

    So its a biscuit.
    No it doesn't make bread a cake, because it is bread, unlike Jaffa Cakes which are legally defined as cakes.

    You asked which one it is, you should have warned you only wanted the answer you agree with. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    The Raptor wrote: »
    Jaffa Cakes is just a name on the packet of biscuits just like hob nobs is on the packet.

    That's what HM Customs tried to tell the court but they were wrong too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    No it doesn't make bread a cake, because it is bread, unlike Jaffa Cakes which are legally defined as cakes.

    You asked which one it is, you should have warned you only wanted the answer you agree with. :D

    From here on in, I would like answers I agree with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    For tax purposes they're called apples.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Fuzzy Clam wrote: »
    For tax purposes they're called apples.

    Like the Garlic? Got ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    All I could think of was this:
    https://youtu.be/OkjOY4lPodI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    The Raptor wrote: »

    I'm thinking biscuits because you don't get 12 cakes in a packet.

    What about teacakes and fairy cakes and cupcakes They have all them in packets of 12 in every supermarket.

    I prefer to call them biscuits (jaffa cakes) even though they are cakes, it just doesn't sound too bad when I say I ate 12 biscuits with my cup of tea as opposed to I ate 12 cakes with my cup of tea :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    What about teacakes and fairy cakes and cupcakes They have all them in packets of 12 in every supermarket.

    I prefer to call them biscuits (jaffa cakes) even though they are cakes, it just doesn't sound too bad when I say I ate 12 biscuits with my cup of tea as opposed to I ate 12 cakes with my cup of tea :D

    Teacakes = marshmallow on a buscuit base covered in chocolate. So they're biscuits.

    Fairy cakes and cupcakes are buns.It's

    ok to have packets of 12 in these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Like the Garlic? Got ya

    No flies on you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    The Raptor wrote: »
    Teacakes = marshmallow on a buscuit base covered in chocolate. So they're biscuits.

    Fairy cakes and cupcakes are buns.It's

    ok to have packets of 12 in these.

    So let me get this straight all the items I mentioned are cakes but you say they are biscuits or buns?? I've had many a BUNburger but them buns are usually bread based. Anyhow if/when you get/got married did you have wedding biscuit? and do you get a birthday biscuit with a candle in it? :D
    your mind is made up so i am wasting my time here, but one last attempt how about we call them biscakes? YAY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Gateaux or Gatox


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Gateaux or Gatox

    I knew a guy worked for Gatox, he was a bit of a bollow.


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