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Safe for Real fire

  • 17-08-2016 11:58am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭


    We recently got the gas connection into the fire snipped by a RGI (apparently due to lack of ventilation). Is this now safe to use as a real fire or will further work need to be done?

    I have a few pics attached. This is a standard council type terrace house and I believe the fireplace was originally used as a "Real" fire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    big syke wrote: »
    We recently got the gas connection into the fire snipped by a RGI (apparently due to lack of ventilation). Is this now safe to use as a real fire or will further work need to be done?

    I have a few pics attached. This is a standard council type terrace house and I believe the fireplace was originally used as a "Real" fire.

    http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C37240%2Cen.pdf
    to comply with building regulations you will need to provide permanent ventilation to the room as per page 17 of the above link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    big syke wrote: »
    We recently got the gas connection into the fire snipped by a RGI (apparently due to lack of ventilation). Is this now safe to use as a real fire or will further work need to be done?

    I have a few pics attached. This is a standard council type terrace house and I believe the fireplace was originally used as a "Real" fire.

    Is that domestic back boiler disconnected
    I would get that checked by a plumber
    get chimney cleaned
    Get redundant back boiler removed and replaced with a fire back if applicable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭big syke


    dathi wrote: »
    http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C37240%2Cen.pdf
    to comply with building regulations you will need to provide permanent ventilation to the room as per page 17 of the above link

    Thanks for that.

    that table talk about Air supply to non-room sealed solid fuel appliances. What exactly does that mean??

    Do the windows in the room suffice as ventilation? Its rented accommodation so I imagine any regulation irregularities fall into the hand of the landlord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭big syke


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Is that domestic back boiler disconnected
    I would get that checked by a plumber
    get chimney cleaned
    Get redundant back boiler removed and replaced with a fire back if applicable

    Thanks for your reply.

    I have no idea if the back boiler is disconnected! All I know is there is no gas going into the fire anymore.

    I will have a plumber take a look at the boiler and also get the chimney cleaned.

    Cost wise what would I be looking at if the back boiler needs to be removed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    big syke wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply.

    I have no idea if the back boiler is disconnected! All I know is there is no gas going into the fire anymore.

    I will have a plumber take a look at the boiler and also get the chimney cleaned.

    Cost wise what would I be looking at if the back boiler needs to be removed?

    To remove back boiler and fit a fire back would be somewhere in the region of €300-€450


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    big syke wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    that table talk about Air supply to non-room sealed solid fuel appliances. What exactly does that mean??
    air sealed is where the air supply and flue exhaust are both external to the room: e.g. a gas boiler for central heating
    This is not the case here.
    Do the windows in the room suffice as ventilation?
    NO, permanent ventilation is the requirement.
    Its rented accommodation so I imagine any regulation irregularities fall into the hand of the landlord.
    Perhaps but you and your family and any guests are the ones whose lives are at risk from CO poisoning.
    No point in being dead right about the responsibilities.

    If its rented, why do the work: an open fire is very inefficient

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    big syke wrote: »

    Do the windows in the room suffice as ventilation?

    no we are talking about a hole in the wall with a grill cover which can not be closed by you and table 1 in the above link clearly says open fire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭ChewyLuey


    Hi Big syke

    How much did it cost to get the gas pipe snipped/capped by RGI if you don't mind me asking? Need to do same soon.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭big syke


    ChewyLuey wrote: »
    Hi Big syke

    How much did it cost to get the gas pipe snipped/capped by RGI if you don't mind me asking? Need to do same soon.

    Thanks

    It didn't cost us anything the Gas boiler needed a service so the LL paid for this and the RGI investigated the gas fire and said it was not to be used and snipped the pipe.


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