Crewcab tax

clarestar

We recently purchased a 2008 crewcab jeep to replace our old 98 commercial. We farm part time & have herd number etc so assumed we could continue taxing at commercial rate. The tax office now state that we need a VAT number in order to tax commercial. We only have small farm so don't do VAT returns.We are also PAYE workers. Anyone come across this problem or have any ideas around it? It will cost over 1000 to tax otherwise which we can't afford. Thanks

Silvera

It appears - from what I have read and heard - that different counties have different restrictions when it comes to commercial tax. Do you have the option to use a different county/address in order to tax the jeep?

farmerjj

clarestar wrote: »

We recently purchased a 2008 crewcab jeep to replace our old 98 commercial. We farm part time & have herd number etc so assumed we could continue taxing at commercial rate. The tax office now state that we need a VAT number in order to tax commercial. We only have small farm so don't do VAT returns.We are also PAYE workers. Anyone come across this problem or have any ideas around it? It will cost over 1000 to tax otherwise which we can't afford. Thanks

Cant see how they can do that, you might be better off getting in contact with someone else inside in the tax office,majority of farmers don't have a tax number,and if they still insist on one then you might be better off thinking about going to your solicitor.

alfaromeo84

In most cases now your PPS no is your VAT number, last time I went to tax the van I got the Garda declaration form stamped, put in my PPS no and posted it in, got the tax disc a week later.

If you are under the threshold it doesn't matter. Just bang in the PPS.

scudster

alfaromeo84 wrote: »

In most cases now your PPS no is your VAT number, last time I went to tax the van I got the Garda declaration form stamped, put in my PPS no and posted it in, got the tax disc a week later.

If you are under the threshold it doesn't matter. Just bang in the PPS.

What threshold?

charleville

I think he means under the vat threshold, that you don't need to register for vat if you earn under 37,500
Ring up the tax office and explain to them your under the vat threshold and what's their policy regarding your situation, it seems silly and a bit made up what they are saying to you id be surprised if it's actual policy, maybe the worker in tax office is confused with something else

BigWill

clarestar wrote: »

We recently purchased a 2008 crewcab jeep to replace our old 98 commercial. We farm part time & have herd number etc so assumed we could continue taxing at commercial rate. The tax office now state that we need a VAT number in order to tax commercial. We only have small farm so don't do VAT returns.We are also PAYE workers. Anyone come across this problem or have any ideas around it? It will cost over 1000 to tax otherwise which we can't afford. Thanks

You definitely don't need a vat number, get it in writing!! You do need to prove you are actually farming and not just a herd number holder, i.e letter from your accountant proving farm tax affairs up to date, dept payment receipt etc Don't be bullied, would be surprised if you are from Mayo, the tax office in castlebar is one of the worst offenders in the country for this bull****e but you are not compelled to register for vat in any business unless you have a turnover threshold of 100k or something like that. Ask them for the sheet of requirements in writing and I'll bet it's not there!!

doctorchopper

clarestar wrote: »

We recently purchased a 2008 crewcab jeep to replace our old 98 commercial. We farm part time & have herd number etc so assumed we could continue taxing at commercial rate. The tax office now state that we need a VAT number in order to tax commercial. We only have small farm so don't do VAT returns.We are also PAYE workers. Anyone come across this problem or have any ideas around it? It will cost over 1000 to tax otherwise which we can't afford. Thanks

any updates on how you got on with his?

Never wrestle with pigs

Anyone ever crew cab a 5 seater landcruiser to tax as commercial?

Are they ok to do? Do you just have to get it stamped and tax her as commercial?

ace86

I'm rang my local tax office in kerry and was told that i need all the forms plus a tax clearance cert from the revenue for the farm to tax my new van but like that i think this commercial tax issue is only frustrating people trying to jump through hoops to get it and please someone in an office.

ace86

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Anyone ever crew cab a 5 seater landcruiser to tax as commercial?

Are they ok to do? Do you just have to get it stamped and tax her as commercial?

You have to complete a form RF11A and declare on it the nature of your business to get commerical tax and maybe they might want
you to weigh it as well from storys I'm hearing.

Theanswers

Just off the phone with NSAI.

Not a single 4x4 they have measured yet meets the requirements, this includes as I mentioned L322 RR and Landcruisers etc etc.

There will be no more proper Crew cabs going forward.

BorneTobyWilde

Theanswers wrote: »

Just off the phone with NSAI.

Not a single 4x4 they have measured yet meets the requirements, this includes as I mentioned L322 RR and Landcruisers etc etc.

There will be no more proper Crew cabs going forward.

But rest of EU is ok, we just use tapes to make things look bigger than they actually are. Insecure irish for ya.

Theanswers

The rest of the EU doesn't have to deal with this rubbish.

Common Sense applies!

Go find a Landcruiser Van in Europe, they are hard to come by.

doctorchopper

Theanswers wrote: »

The rest of the EU doesn't have to deal with this rubbish.

Common Sense applies!

Go find a Landcruiser Van in Europe, they are hard to come by.

For sure, plus the rest of Euroupe doesnt have to pay 2350 euro a year for tax for a landcruiser so there is no need for them to crewcab them to start with

WestWicklow1

Ireland - The only country where you have to destroy a perfectly good vehicle to make it affordable.

Why does it happen? Because we put up with it.

hi5

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

Ireland - The only country where you have to destroy a perfectly good vehicle to make it affordable.

Why does it happen? Because we put up with it.

The US too...

http://www.autonews.com/article/20141124/OEM11/311249980/how-sprinter-dodges-the-chicken-tax

'Ford Transit Connects, manufactured in Spain and shipped to the U.S. as passenger vehicles, come with rear seats, seat belts and windows. Once the vehicles land at the port in Baltimore, Ford converts about 70 percent into cargo vans by removing the seats, windows and seat belts. Chrysler is preparing to use the same strategy with Ram ProMaster City small vans built in Turkey as passenger vehicles'.

CJhaughey

hi5 wrote: »

The US too...

http://www.autonews.com/article/20141124/OEM11/311249980/how-sprinter-dodges-the-chicken-tax

'Ford Transit Connects, manufactured in Spain and shipped to the U.S. as passenger vehicles, come with rear seats, seat belts and windows. Once the vehicles land at the port in Baltimore, Ford converts about 70 percent into cargo vans by removing the seats, windows and seat belts. Chrysler is preparing to use the same strategy with Ram ProMaster City small vans built in Turkey as passenger vehicles'.

Thats different though, it only affects the vehicle manufacturer, not the end user like here.
Having 52 different tax classes is a monumental lesson in social engineering.