PPS for Non Irish resident

Fermanagh Matt

HI folks

I live in Fermanagh and have done for 11 years. We are trying to purchase a holiday home in Donegal but require a PPS number. Ive registered with the website and made an appointment however its telling me I need my passport (no problem) and proof of the Irish address.

Obviously I cant provide proof of the Irish address in order to get a PPS number as I need a PPS number to get the Irish address.

Does anyone know how to overcome this? Ive already paid a deposit and plan to get the estate agents to send me an email confirming the deposit amount paid, and what address it applies to. Ive never had any dealings with the Irish welfare system, if its anything like the English set up I'm expecting endless hassles.

If anyone has any experience with this I would be grateful to hear

Thanks

Mrs OBumble

The solicitor who is looking after your interests in the sale is able to advise on this one. There is a process to get a PPS number for foreign residents (ya, I know you don't feel or sound foreign) to get a PPS in this situation, and it's different to the usual process. I think the appointment you made is no use to you.

Fermanagh Matt

Ok thanks, ill try them again

dbran

You need to apply to the Department of Social Protection for a PPS number and tell that that the purpose for requiring the PPS number is to be able to purchase a property and to comply with Irish law (and taxes).

I hope you are not up against deadlines however as it can take 4-6 weeks.

dbran

Fermanagh Matt

Thanks for the reply,

We registered with the my welfare ie site which we had to do prior to arranging an appointment. (Ive actually just googled Department of Social Protection and the first result is that site)

Ive sent them an email to try and avoid wasting everyones time, no point going to an appointment without the correct paperwork but I'm hoping they can advise what I should do.

Ive now obtained an official receipt from the estate agents detailing the property and the amount of deposit paid. Ive also emailed the solicitor we are using in Donegal who can hopefully offer some suggestions

Ill up date the thread as I find out more incase its of use to anyone else in future

Fermanagh Matt

I had my appointment on Thursday. They requested I bring proof of my NI address, passport, birth certificate, national insurance card and any paperwork relating to the property we are buying. The appointment was all done within about 15 mins, and the card has been issued - they estimated it would take a week to arrive.

They were extremely efficient and easy to deal with, certainly far easier than the English equivalent, in my experiance.

dossier279

dbran wrote: »

You need to apply to the Department of Social Protection for a PPS number and tell that that the purpose for requiring the PPS number is to be able to purchase a property and to comply with Irish law (and taxes).

I hope you are not up against deadlines however as it can take 4-6 weeks.

dbran

As of mid 2018, is it still 4-6 weeks? I've been waiting 4 weeks already for the non-resident PPSN process by post with CIS.

PlaneSpeeking

dossier279 wrote: »

As of mid 2018, is it still 4-6 weeks? I've been waiting 4 weeks already for the non-resident PPSN process by post with CIS.

Sounds about right - I deal with a lot of overseas students and some get a PPS to work here.

At the moment it's about 5 weeks average I'd say.

dossier279

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

dossier279 wrote: »

As of mid 2018, is it still 4-6 weeks? I've been waiting 4 weeks already for the non-resident PPSN process by post with CIS.

Sounds about right - I deal with a lot of overseas students and some get a PPS to work here.

At the moment it's about 5 weeks average I'd say.

Oh good thanks: because I sent in a postal application to CIS at the DSP and haven't heard a thing. I wanted to check it wasn't just lost in the post!
I'm surprised it takes so long though?

PlaneSpeeking

dossier279 wrote: »

Oh good thanks: because I sent in a postal application to CIS at the DSP and haven't heard a thing. I wanted to check it wasn't just lost in the post!
I'm surprised it takes so long though?

Indeed - one of the staff got his passport quicker!!

dossier279

Any idea why it takes so long vs the in-person intreo process?

dossier279

dbran wrote: »

You need to apply to the Department of Social Protection for a PPS number and tell that that the purpose for requiring the PPS number is to be able to purchase a property and to comply with Irish law (and taxes).

I hope you are not up against deadlines however as it can take 4-6 weeks.

dbran

Is there any particular reason it takes so long for the DSP to process these non-resident PPS applications? Thank you

Squatter

dossier279 wrote: »

Is there any particular reason it takes so long for the DSP to process these non-resident PPS applications? Thank you

Like most things in the DSP, it boils down to workload volume versus number of staff assigned to the task.

It's probably a bit slower in the summer when staff are availing of annual leave or term time working.

dossier279

Squatter wrote: »

dossier279 wrote: »

Is there any particular reason it takes so long for the DSP to process these non-resident PPS applications? Thank you

Like most things in the DSP, it boils down to workload volume versus number of staff assigned to the task.

It's probably a bit slower in the summer when staff are availing of annual leave or term time working.

Thanks. I finally got it from the DSP by post; it 5 - 6 weeks in all