Home Audio

AnarchistKen

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Gimme Stitches

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Hi Gimme Stitches.

No problem at all in jumping in ;)

The Link is used on a product that has no streaming or Heos features.
You connect the LINK and it the allows your own unit to become a Heos device.

The Heos amp is in theory a little mini system. It has a built in amp which can run a pair of speakers and once paired with the app give the Heos features.

So the LINK can make anything its connected to Heos compatible and the AMP is a little unit that can run one pair of speakers.

Projector, A/V receivers, speakers etc are no issue but I don't have very much knowledge in the TV in all rooms part as this would need set up with Matrixs and CAT6 cable between each TV back to a certain central hub. Is this a new build? Canthe walls be tracked to run CAT6 cable?

You could also use a HDMI splitter and run separate HDMI from this to each TV. Again for this cables will nedd run to each screen.

The Heos drive is in theory 4 Heos AMPS paired together which can run up to 4 rooms or 4 pairs of speakers.
"Whole home multi-zone audio in a single chassis.
Designed by custom integration specialists for custom integration professionals, HEOS Drive is a unique 4 zone whole home audio distribution system with 8 channels of Class D amplification, all in a 2RU single chassis that features both Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding with stereo downmixing.
Rated at 60 watts per channel into each of the 8 channels (20Hz~20kHz, .05% THD, 8 ohms, All Channels Driven), 1 or 2 stereo amp pairs can be bridged for single channel high power output (130 watts), and the HEOS Drive features low impedance drive capability (4 ohms).
Each zone features a stereo pair of pre-amp outputs, and each zone can be configured for stereo or mixed mono output. The matrix switching system features 2 optical digital inputs, 2 coaxial digital inputs and 4 analog stereo inputs, any of which can be assigned to any zone, and every zone features a dedicated USB port for connection to an external USB drive.
Equipped to handle virtually any combination of speaker configurations, HEOS Drive features built-in DSP high pass/low pass filters - set any output to full range, subwoofer or satellite speaker modes, with adjustable crossover points.
The speaker outputs feature 4-way binding posts that are compatible with banana plug terminations, and there are 4 12V trigger outputs. The chassis features quiet fan cooling for long term stability and operational reliability."
The HD Anywhere is the type of thing you would need but as with this box it runs on CAT6 between it and each room.
Unfortunately our only store in Ireland is here in Belfast.

Let me know what you think about the Heos. In terms of speaker cables for the Living room 5.1, Kitchen room, office and bed room was also need run in. Are these going to be back to a central location or done by each room?

Gimme Stitches

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Hi Gimme Stitches.

No problem at all in jumping in ;)

The Link is used on a product that has no streaming or Heos features.
You connect the LINK and it the allows your own unit to become a Heos device.

The Heos amp is in theory a little mini system. It has a built in amp which can run a pair of speakers and once paired with the app give the Heos features.

So the LINK can make anything its connected to Heos compatible and the AMP is a little unit that can run one pair of speakers.

Projector, A/V receivers, speakers etc are no issue but I don't have very much knowledge in the TV in all rooms part as this would need set up with Matrixs and CAT6 cable between each TV back to a certain central hub. Is this a new build? Canthe walls be tracked to run CAT6 cable?

You could also use a HDMI splitter and run separate HDMI from this to each TV. Again for this cables will nedd run to each screen.

The Heos drive is in theory 4 Heos AMPS paired together which can run up to 4 rooms or 4 pairs of speakers.
"Whole home multi-zone audio in a single chassis.
Designed by custom integration specialists for custom integration professionals, HEOS Drive is a unique 4 zone whole home audio distribution system with 8 channels of Class D amplification, all in a 2RU single chassis that features both Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding with stereo downmixing.
Rated at 60 watts per channel into each of the 8 channels (20Hz~20kHz, .05% THD, 8 ohms, All Channels Driven), 1 or 2 stereo amp pairs can be bridged for single channel high power output (130 watts), and the HEOS Drive features low impedance drive capability (4 ohms).
Each zone features a stereo pair of pre-amp outputs, and each zone can be configured for stereo or mixed mono output. The matrix switching system features 2 optical digital inputs, 2 coaxial digital inputs and 4 analog stereo inputs, any of which can be assigned to any zone, and every zone features a dedicated USB port for connection to an external USB drive.
Equipped to handle virtually any combination of speaker configurations, HEOS Drive features built-in DSP high pass/low pass filters - set any output to full range, subwoofer or satellite speaker modes, with adjustable crossover points.
The speaker outputs feature 4-way binding posts that are compatible with banana plug terminations, and there are 4 12V trigger outputs. The chassis features quiet fan cooling for long term stability and operational reliability."
The HD Anywhere is the type of thing you would need but as with this box it runs on CAT6 between it and each room.
Unfortunately our only store in Ireland is here in Belfast.

Let me know what you think about the Heos. In terms of speaker cables for the Living room 5.1, Kitchen room, office and bed room was also need run in. Are these going to be back to a central location or done by each room?

This is a new build so have scope to wire accordingly just need to plan whats needed. 
Is there a difference in terms of performance between wired and wireless speakers?
Heos looks very tempting just need to figure out which system would best suit.
As this is a new build open to putting in place the optimum setup. I had imagined this to be a central hub somewhere maybe in a utility/office room that would feed the rest of the house. But only starting to look now. So open to suggestions.

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Hi Gimme Stitches.

No problem at all in jumping in ;)

The Link is used on a product that has no streaming or Heos features.
You connect the LINK and it the allows your own unit to become a Heos device.

The Heos amp is in theory a little mini system. It has a built in amp which can run a pair of speakers and once paired with the app give the Heos features.

So the LINK can make anything its connected to Heos compatible and the AMP is a little unit that can run one pair of speakers.

Projector, A/V receivers, speakers etc are no issue but I don't have very much knowledge in the TV in all rooms part as this would need set up with Matrixs and CAT6 cable between each TV back to a certain central hub. Is this a new build? Canthe walls be tracked to run CAT6 cable?

You could also use a HDMI splitter and run separate HDMI from this to each TV. Again for this cables will nedd run to each screen.

The Heos drive is in theory 4 Heos AMPS paired together which can run up to 4 rooms or 4 pairs of speakers.
"Whole home multi-zone audio in a single chassis.
Designed by custom integration specialists for custom integration professionals, HEOS Drive is a unique 4 zone whole home audio distribution system with 8 channels of Class D amplification, all in a 2RU single chassis that features both Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding with stereo downmixing.
Rated at 60 watts per channel into each of the 8 channels (20Hz~20kHz, .05% THD, 8 ohms, All Channels Driven), 1 or 2 stereo amp pairs can be bridged for single channel high power output (130 watts), and the HEOS Drive features low impedance drive capability (4 ohms).
Each zone features a stereo pair of pre-amp outputs, and each zone can be configured for stereo or mixed mono output. The matrix switching system features 2 optical digital inputs, 2 coaxial digital inputs and 4 analog stereo inputs, any of which can be assigned to any zone, and every zone features a dedicated USB port for connection to an external USB drive.
Equipped to handle virtually any combination of speaker configurations, HEOS Drive features built-in DSP high pass/low pass filters - set any output to full range, subwoofer or satellite speaker modes, with adjustable crossover points.
The speaker outputs feature 4-way binding posts that are compatible with banana plug terminations, and there are 4 12V trigger outputs. The chassis features quiet fan cooling for long term stability and operational reliability."
The HD Anywhere is the type of thing you would need but as with this box it runs on CAT6 between it and each room.
Unfortunately our only store in Ireland is here in Belfast.

Let me know what you think about the Heos. In terms of speaker cables for the Living room 5.1, Kitchen room, office and bed room was also need run in. Are these going to be back to a central location or done by each room?

This is a new build so have scope to wire accordingly just need to plan whats needed. 
Is there a difference in terms of performance between wired and wireless speakers?
Heos looks very tempting just need to figure out which system would best suit.
As this is a new build open to putting in place the optimum setup. I had imagined this to be a central hub somewhere maybe in a utility/office room that would feed the rest of the house. But only starting to look now. So open to suggestions.

Hi Gimme Stitches,

Kenny is off today so I hope you don't mind me answering on his behalf. I would always prefer wired speakers for sound quality however the technology in wireless speakers like Heos and Sonos are so good the difference between them is becoming more and more negligible. One of the main benefits of the Heos Drive is it can be used as a wired amplifier to give the best quality sound for in ceiling speakers and can also be added to other Heos wireless speakers allowing you to extend your system.

With the Heos Drive as your central hub you really only need a wifi connection to add more wireless speakers to the system.

If you require any additional information don't hesitate to contact me.

Kind Regards

David

Gimme Stitches

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

AnarchistKen wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Hi Gimme Stitches.

No problem at all in jumping in ;)

The Link is used on a product that has no streaming or Heos features.
You connect the LINK and it the allows your own unit to become a Heos device.

The Heos amp is in theory a little mini system. It has a built in amp which can run a pair of speakers and once paired with the app give the Heos features.

So the LINK can make anything its connected to Heos compatible and the AMP is a little unit that can run one pair of speakers.

Projector, A/V receivers, speakers etc are no issue but I don't have very much knowledge in the TV in all rooms part as this would need set up with Matrixs and CAT6 cable between each TV back to a certain central hub. Is this a new build? Canthe walls be tracked to run CAT6 cable?

You could also use a HDMI splitter and run separate HDMI from this to each TV. Again for this cables will nedd run to each screen.

The Heos drive is in theory 4 Heos AMPS paired together which can run up to 4 rooms or 4 pairs of speakers.
"Whole home multi-zone audio in a single chassis.
Designed by custom integration specialists for custom integration professionals, HEOS Drive is a unique 4 zone whole home audio distribution system with 8 channels of Class D amplification, all in a 2RU single chassis that features both Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding with stereo downmixing.
Rated at 60 watts per channel into each of the 8 channels (20Hz~20kHz, .05% THD, 8 ohms, All Channels Driven), 1 or 2 stereo amp pairs can be bridged for single channel high power output (130 watts), and the HEOS Drive features low impedance drive capability (4 ohms).
Each zone features a stereo pair of pre-amp outputs, and each zone can be configured for stereo or mixed mono output. The matrix switching system features 2 optical digital inputs, 2 coaxial digital inputs and 4 analog stereo inputs, any of which can be assigned to any zone, and every zone features a dedicated USB port for connection to an external USB drive.
Equipped to handle virtually any combination of speaker configurations, HEOS Drive features built-in DSP high pass/low pass filters - set any output to full range, subwoofer or satellite speaker modes, with adjustable crossover points.
The speaker outputs feature 4-way binding posts that are compatible with banana plug terminations, and there are 4 12V trigger outputs. The chassis features quiet fan cooling for long term stability and operational reliability."
The HD Anywhere is the type of thing you would need but as with this box it runs on CAT6 between it and each room.
Unfortunately our only store in Ireland is here in Belfast.

Let me know what you think about the Heos. In terms of speaker cables for the Living room 5.1, Kitchen room, office and bed room was also need run in. Are these going to be back to a central location or done by each room?

This is a new build so have scope to wire accordingly just need to plan whats needed. 
Is there a difference in terms of performance between wired and wireless speakers?
Heos looks very tempting just need to figure out which system would best suit.
As this is a new build open to putting in place the optimum setup. I had imagined this to be a central hub somewhere maybe in a utility/office room that would feed the rest of the house. But only starting to look now. So open to suggestions.

Hi Gimme Stitches,

Kenny is off today so I hope you don't mind me answering on his behalf. I would always prefer wired speakers for sound quality however the technology in wireless speakers like Heos and Sonos are so good the difference between them is becoming more and more negligible. One of the main benefits of the Heos Drive is it can be used as a wired amplifier to give the best quality sound for in ceiling speakers and can also be added to other Heos wireless speakers allowing you to extend your system.

With the Heos Drive as your central hub you really only need a wifi connection to add more wireless speakers to the system.

If you require any additional information don't hesitate to contact me.

Kind Regards

David

Thanks David,
Could you suggest a setup based on wired speakers. 
Could you also suggest options for the projector and best way to hook that up.

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Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of commencing a house re-wiring job so I want to ensure I have a good home audio system installed. 

My intention is to have two zones for home audio set up as follows:

Living Room:
4 x ceiling speakers
1 x amp or av receiver?

Kitchen
2 x ceiling speakers
1 x wall insert controller with FM tuner, bluetooth / NFC capabilities 

I've no problem wiring the place up from an electrical point of view, but I'm completely at sea when it comes to specifications or systems for this type of set up. 

If you could review and suggest some pieces of kit you supply it'd be appreciated.

Hi AnarchistKen.

The wiring of the actual systems in no problem. You would have the amp in the Living room placed and then run speaker cable to each speaker point for front left and right and rear left and right.
You would also require a center speaker and a subwoofer to complete the 5.1 setup.
A subwoofer would run on a single phono cable we stock a 7.5m one priced at £19.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-10538-aud100-75m-sub-cable.aspx

Cable starts at 99p per meter.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-900187-symphony-100.aspx

For the speakers themselves I would look at the excellent Monitor Audio CT165 priced at £105 each
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11974-ct165.aspx

If you went for the Denon AVRX2300 coming in at £499.00 you could team this up with the Heos product for multi room without having to run cat 6 cable
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202128-avrx2300.aspx

Heos:
http://www.richersounds.ie/cssearch.aspx?searchterm=heos

For the kitchen again you could stick with the same speakers.

The wall plate is not something we normally stock as this would be something that would need CAT 5 or 6 cable stalled through the house to carry the signal to the wall plate and the sources that are connected.
This would seem like a lot of work for just one wall controller. You would also need to purchase a FM tuner to add into the system.

If you used the Heos products you can get TUNEIN radio, connect to your network and also use blutooth.
The LINK priced at £199.00 would connect to the A/V receiver in the livingroom:
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12836-heos-link.aspx

Then you could use the Heos AMp in the kitchen priced at £399.
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202147-amp-hs2.aspx

This would then allow you to add other Heos products around the house and control via the app.

I hope this helps a little, any question please drop me a post.

Hi Kenny,
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Looking into home audio system as well and found this information very useful but still a little confused as to the need of the amp or link? What is the difference between the 2?
If I wanted to have the following
cinema room, nice projector, projector screen and good quality sound system
open plan area to encompass kitchen and living/ dining area. would like speakers in the kitchen area, tv and speakers in the living area
bedroom tv 
office speakers
have sky box, ps4 and apple tv and would like if possible to have access to these on all tv's.
what type of wiring would need to be in place? As I'm still at the planning stage of the house.
I have seen HD anywhere boxes and Heos Drive online but not too sure how these would fit in or if they would even be needed.
If you could suggest a configuration or possible configurations that would be good also a price. 
Do you guys have a showroom in the Republic?

Hi Gimme Stitches.

No problem at all in jumping in ;)

The Link is used on a product that has no streaming or Heos features.
You connect the LINK and it the allows your own unit to become a Heos device.

The Heos amp is in theory a little mini system. It has a built in amp which can run a pair of speakers and once paired with the app give the Heos features.

So the LINK can make anything its connected to Heos compatible and the AMP is a little unit that can run one pair of speakers.

Projector, A/V receivers, speakers etc are no issue but I don't have very much knowledge in the TV in all rooms part as this would need set up with Matrixs and CAT6 cable between each TV back to a certain central hub. Is this a new build? Canthe walls be tracked to run CAT6 cable?

You could also use a HDMI splitter and run separate HDMI from this to each TV. Again for this cables will nedd run to each screen.

The Heos drive is in theory 4 Heos AMPS paired together which can run up to 4 rooms or 4 pairs of speakers.
"Whole home multi-zone audio in a single chassis.
Designed by custom integration specialists for custom integration professionals, HEOS Drive is a unique 4 zone whole home audio distribution system with 8 channels of Class D amplification, all in a 2RU single chassis that features both Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding with stereo downmixing.
Rated at 60 watts per channel into each of the 8 channels (20Hz~20kHz, .05% THD, 8 ohms, All Channels Driven), 1 or 2 stereo amp pairs can be bridged for single channel high power output (130 watts), and the HEOS Drive features low impedance drive capability (4 ohms).
Each zone features a stereo pair of pre-amp outputs, and each zone can be configured for stereo or mixed mono output. The matrix switching system features 2 optical digital inputs, 2 coaxial digital inputs and 4 analog stereo inputs, any of which can be assigned to any zone, and every zone features a dedicated USB port for connection to an external USB drive.
Equipped to handle virtually any combination of speaker configurations, HEOS Drive features built-in DSP high pass/low pass filters - set any output to full range, subwoofer or satellite speaker modes, with adjustable crossover points.
The speaker outputs feature 4-way binding posts that are compatible with banana plug terminations, and there are 4 12V trigger outputs. The chassis features quiet fan cooling for long term stability and operational reliability."
The HD Anywhere is the type of thing you would need but as with this box it runs on CAT6 between it and each room.
Unfortunately our only store in Ireland is here in Belfast.

Let me know what you think about the Heos. In terms of speaker cables for the Living room 5.1, Kitchen room, office and bed room was also need run in. Are these going to be back to a central location or done by each room?

This is a new build so have scope to wire accordingly just need to plan whats needed. 
Is there a difference in terms of performance between wired and wireless speakers?
Heos looks very tempting just need to figure out which system would best suit.
As this is a new build open to putting in place the optimum setup. I had imagined this to be a central hub somewhere maybe in a utility/office room that would feed the rest of the house. But only starting to look now. So open to suggestions.

Hi Gimme Stitches,

Kenny is off today so I hope you don't mind me answering on his behalf. I would always prefer wired speakers for sound quality however the technology in wireless speakers like Heos and Sonos are so good the difference between them is becoming more and more negligible. One of the main benefits of the Heos Drive is it can be used as a wired amplifier to give the best quality sound for in ceiling speakers and can also be added to other Heos wireless speakers allowing you to extend your system.

With the Heos Drive as your central hub you really only need a wifi connection to add more wireless speakers to the system.

If you require any additional information don't hesitate to contact me.

Kind Regards

David

Thanks David,
Could you suggest a setup based on wired speakers. 
Could you also suggest options for the projector and best way to hook that up.

Hey Gimme Stitches.

Would you have any plans handy for us to have a look at. Where are you wanting your central hub to be located? 

For the main cinema room are you wanting to run in-ceiling speakers, or bookshelf ones?

The setup mentioned above for the AVRX2300 and CT165 (In ceilings) would be still a very good setup. The CT165 you would require 4 (Front left and right and rear left and right). You could also use the Pro-IC in-ceiling which are priced at £60.00 each
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/pro-ic

The 2300 will allow for it to run the 2 speakers in the kitchen as a 2nd Zone. Or you can drop in a Heos 1 or Heos 3 in the kitchen and office for music.

You would also require a center speaker - There are a few ways you could do this. Monitor Audio also make a In-wall center speaker which could be fitted int eh wall below the projector screen The WT250-LCR priced at £169.95
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/cwt/wt250-lcr

Or you could use a normal center the Bronze Center which is priced at £159.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12909-bronze-centre.aspx

Again there are options for the subwoofer. You can stick to the usual type of sub, something like the MRW10 priced at £199.00
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-12485-mrw10.aspx

Or Monitor Audio also do an in wall sub:
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/inwall-subwoofer
I currently don't have pricing on these to hand.

On the projector and screen front, there are many different prices and sizes for the screen.
We start at the Optoma 92" currently priced at £69.95
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-11803-optoma-ds9092pmg.aspx

We also stock a range by Sapphire which are built as we need them and take a little longer to arrive:
http://www.richersounds.com/search/sapphire

For the projector itself again their are a good few options depending on budget:
The NEW BENQ TH670 priced at £479.00
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-202210-th670.aspx

Then the Optoma HD26 priced at £499.00 - Very very popular projector
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-200761-hd26.aspx

BENQ also do the W2000 which is priced at £799.00
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-201822-w2000.aspx

Optoma HD50 priced at £999.00
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-200779-hd50.aspx

For going all out Epson have the EHTW6600 priced at £1099
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-200887-ehtw6600.aspx

Sony offer up the VPLHW65ES priced at £2799.00
http://www.richersounds.ie/p-201688-vplhw65es.aspx

You would also require HDMI cables to run between your sources, amp and projector. Depending on the length of run from amp to projector.

I hope the above helps a little.

Let me know what you think.

Gimme Stitches

I can PM on a plan drawing for you to look at. The plan is one big open plan rectangle area to encompass kitchen dining and living area. 4.8m X 11.5m with higher than standard ceiling height exact measurement escapes me. Off that then to the front left is the cinemna room. Front right is the office/study. Back left bedroom, back right bedroom. Would like good sound in the open plan area, with that space not sure how many speakers would be required or what configurations are possible as in the ability to have zones in the open plan itself.
 I'm at the very early stages yet so just getting my ducks lined up. I was unsure weather to go the wireless or wired route with regard to speakers. I like the idea of ceiling speakers. With regard to central hub i guess it would go where best suited.
Would like to get the wiring correct from day one and let the system evolve then over time as I've no doubt the budget will dictate. 

Richersounds.ie: Brian

Gimme Stitches wrote: »

I can PM on a plan drawing for you to look at. The plan is one big open plan rectangle area to encompass kitchen dining and living area. 4.8m X 11.5m with higher than standard ceiling height exact measurement escapes me. Off that then to the front left is the cinemna room. Front right is the office/study. Back left bedroom, back right bedroom. Would like good sound in the open plan area, with that space not sure how many speakers would be required or what configurations are possible as in the ability to have zones in the open plan itself.
 I'm at the very early stages yet so just getting my ducks lined up. I was unsure weather to go the wireless or wired route with regard to speakers. I like the idea of ceiling speakers. With regard to central hub i guess it would go where best suited.
Would like to get the wiring correct from day one and let the system evolve then over time as I've no doubt the budget will dictate. 

Thanks Gimme stitches, if you email your plans to sales@richersounds.ie, we will get a look and give you some advice

Regards
Brian