i replaced haybob springs- but they dont look right

f140

I replaced a good share all the springs on the haybob last night. ( I was up until midnight doing it). The problem now is that don't seem right. There is very little spring tension in the tine and doesn't spring back up very fast or hold itself up great. The tine is almost all out to pull itself back up.

farmerjj

f140 wrote: »

I replaced a good share all the springs on the haybob last night. ( I was up until midnight doing it). The problem now is that don't seem right. There is very little spring in the tine and doesn't spring back up very fast or hold itself up great. The tine is almost all out to pull itself back up.

You might have put the springs on backwards, best way I can describe it is the spring,s front should be in the hole from the inside not the outside(somebody might be able to describe it better)

Kovu

Can you take a photo of one of the newly loaded springs to show us?

queueeye

f140 wrote: »

I replaced a good share all the springs on the haybob last night. ( I was up until midnight doing it). The problem now is that don't seem right. There is very little spring tension in the tine and doesn't spring back up very fast or hold itself up great. The tine is almost all out to pull itself back up.

I assume you know there are lefts and rights. Have you any functioning ones at all left on either side to use as a guide? If not then the the open side of the hook at the end of the spring should face out when fitted and the tail on the opposite end should point toward the centre of the machine.


Mental Sunday night by the way ya mad yoke ya!

patsy_mccabe

This might help;

sea12

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

This might help;

Notice he never changed the height of the wheels. I always change in between turning and rowing

The Cuban

Why do you change the height? I have never touched the height on mine, should I be?

sea12

The Cuban wrote: »

Why do you change the height? I have never touched the height on mine, should I be?

Yeo it lowers the reel which allows it to take better. Your not the only one who doesn't but I always done it. There is a reason the designers designed it that way.

ganmo

sea12 wrote: »

Yeo it lowers the reel which allows it to take better. Your not the only one who doesn't but I always done it. There is a reason the designers designed it that way.

Don't think the height of the wheels have ever been changed on ours...not sure it can??
Any height adjustment is done via the top link.

orm0nd

sea12 wrote:

Yeo it lowers the reel which allows it to take better. Your not the only one who doesn't but I always done it. There is a reason the designers designed it that way.

I'd say his wheel height is set more for rowing. He's just firing the grass back , should be flinging it upwards to turn it over.

sea12

orm0nd wrote: »

I'd say his wheel height is set more for rowing. He's just firing the grass back , should be flinging it upwards to turn it over.

He says during the video he never adjusts the wheels. Must watch it again. U could be right he might have it set at the rowing setting the whole time.

Username John

sea12 wrote: »

He says during the video he never adjusts the wheels. Must watch it again. U could be right he might have it set at the rowing setting the whole time.

What's the theory - the wheels are lower when turning so the reels are at a steeper angle so it throws the grass out higher at the back?

Tis a long long time since I turned hay. Remember changing the wheels all right, but can't remember how or why...

sea12

Username John wrote: »

What's the theory - the wheels are lower when turning so the reels are at a steeper angle so it throws the grass out higher at the back?

Tis a long long time since I turned hay. Remember changing the wheels all right, but can't remember how or why...

Yea it's just a lever you adjust to allow the wheel lower or be raised. That results in the reel being closer to ground for raking or higher and allow an angle for tedding

croot

sea12 wrote: »

Yea it's just a lever you adjust to allow the wheel lower or be raised. That results in the reel being closer to ground for raking or higher and allow an angle for tedding

I always thought it was top one for rowing up and lowest one for tedding.

emaherx

croot wrote: »

I always thought it was top one for rowing up and lowest one for tedding.

Is that not the same thing? Top hole makes it lower to the ground.

croot

emaherx wrote: »

Is that not the same thing? Top hole makes it lower to the ground.

Ya you are right. I took that up wrong.

tancoman

Hi f140. On 06/04/2015 you put up photographs of how to change the springs on haybobs.If you search boards.ie for the words"change tines in haybob"you will get all the answers in #8.I have used it and it is a great reference. Best of luck.

Kovu

tancoman wrote: »

Hi f140. On 06/04/2015 you put up photographs of how to change the springs on haybobs.If you search boards.ie for the words"change tines in haybob"you will get all the answers in #8.I have used it and it is a great reference. Best of luck.

Great idea! This is the image on that post but they're having a laugh if they think all haybobs are that immaculate! .
Myself and Dad keep forgetting how to do it each year and have to relearn the knack of loading it (string is a great job)

tancoman

Hi Kovu. That is the one. If people has the patience to follow the photos it should work out ok. Same as operating the haybob, set it up properly and drive slowly, especially on the first turning. The first run is the one where the lumps are shaken out.It seems to me that the people who knock the ould haybob are not able to set it up properly. That means the proper positioning of the wheels, toplink, gates etc and not too much revs on the PTO. With a bit of experience you should have the feel for it when it is set right. That and the bit of good weather.

Kovu

tancoman wrote: »

Hi Kovu. That is the one. If people has the patience to follow the photos it should work out ok. Same as operating the haybob, set it up properly and drive slowly, especially on the first turning. The first run is the one where the lumps are shaken out.It seems to me that the people who knock the ould haybob are not able to set it up properly. That means the proper positioning of the wheels, toplink, gates etc and not too much revs on the PTO. With a bit of experience you should have the feel for it when it is set right. That and the bit of good weather.

Our haybob could probably do the fields itself at this stage, must be over 40yrs old! Was bought by my grandfather and two neighbours in that scheme where three farmers could buy in a co-deal and bar the usual tines and springs it's given no bother at all (according to dad, I only remember its latter years:))

sea12

Anyone know where the hay Bob breaker is in Tipperary. Need to get a new wheel leg and wheel. Have exhausted all the local places to no avail.

f140

Kovu wrote: »

Great idea! This is the image on that post but they're having a laugh if they think all haybobs are that immaculate! .
Myself and Dad keep forgetting how to do it each year and have to relearn the knack of loading it (string is a great job)

excellent thank you. that is by far the clearest picture. I must double check tomorrow where I went wrong.