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N4 - M50 to Kilcock widening/upgrade

  • 06-08-2016 1:38am
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    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    This is a scheme in planning according to TII Chief Exec Michael Nolan at a recent Engineers Ireland conference.

    Only at feasability stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭medoc


    marno21 wrote: »
    This is a scheme in planning according to TII Chief Exec Michael Nolan at a recent Engineers Ireland conference.

    Only at feasability stage.


    Do you mean widening the M4 to 3 lanes only or widening the existing 3 lane N4 to the M50 too?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I believe it's widening the M4 element and bringing the N4 element up to motorway standards

    Details are still sketchy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭medoc


    marno21 wrote: »
    I believe it's widening the M4 element and bringing the N4 element up to motorway standards

    Details are still sketchy


    That's what I was thinking. Not much scope for widening the N4 section easily. But the M4 needs 3 lanes asap. What's the alternative route like if the M4 was extended? I'm not familiar with the general area except travelling inbound and out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    medoc wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking. Not much scope for widening the N4 section easily. But the M4 needs 3 lanes asap. What's the alternative route like if the M4 was extended? I'm not familiar with the general area except travelling inbound and out.

    Having grown up in Lucan, I'd be surprised if they managed to upgrade the Lucan bypass - M50 to motorway. There are footpaths the whole way along which would be difficult to segregate, and no room for a parallel non-motorway road between Lucan East to M50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Having grown up in Lucan, I'd be surprised if they managed to upgrade the Lucan bypass - M50 to motorway. There are footpaths the whole way along which would be difficult to segregate, and no room for a parallel non-motorway road between Lucan East to M50.

    Could they upgrade and widen the Strawberry Beds road which leads to chapelizod/Phoenix park?

    I travelled it today and concluded that the reason this hasn't been done is to avoid Toll dodging


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    D Trent wrote: »
    Could they upgrade and widen the Strawberry Beds road which leads to chapelizod/Phoenix park?

    I travelled it today and concluded that the reason this hasn't been done is to avoid Toll dodging

    Namely the R109

    Now obviously it wouldn't be possible to connect to the M50 but I don't think that's essential for Lucan traffic/commuters
    And certainly not L drivers or cyclists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    How would you get to Sureweld, or St Lomans? if it was Motorway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    how much will this cost? would it not be better to get people onto rail? the capitals roads cant cope with the bloody traffic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    how much will this cost? would it not be better to get people onto rail? the capitals roads cant cope with the bloody traffic!

    The almost parallel rail line is also, if you believe Irish Rail, at capacity.

    Regardless of whether the motorway upgrade of the existing 3 lane section is needed there are still safety improvements required; but a third lane is needed to Kilcock urgently.


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