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Garda going door to door for expired nct

  • 04-08-2016 9:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭


    Two Garda knocked on the door this evening enquiring about a car that's out of nct. They were very nice and there were no issues (car not used in a while). They had a long list with them to get through. Just wondering if this is a common occurrence or just around us (dunshaughlin).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Two Garda knocked on the door this evening enquiring about a car that's out of nct. They were very nice and there were no issues (car not used in a while). They had a long list with them to get through. Just wondering if this is a common occurrence or just around us (dunshaughlin).

    Are you sure they were Gardai? I wonder if they were had somebody reported it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Never heard of this before. Was it parked in a public place or on your private property?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭inajock


    Very strange.interesting yarn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I smell a scam.

    They don't knock on doors because your driving licence has expired, this is highly suspect. And in Ireland and most other countries, they don't send two cops to your house unless they intend knocking your front door down.

    if this was a 'routine' enquiry, it would be one Garda, probably someone coming back off sickness after an injury acquired while on duty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Two Garda knocked on the door this evening enquiring about a car that's out of nct. They were very nice and there were no issues (car not used in a while). They had a long list with them to get through. Just wondering if this is a common occurrence or just around us (dunshaughlin).

    In uniform or plain clothes??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'd ring your local Garda station and ask them if they are carrying such activity. It could be genuine or it could easily be an attempt by criminals at inviting their way into rob a house especially if elderly neighbours live alone, I'm sure they would be very keen in knowing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Surprisingly in Ireland, parking a vehicle in public place without valid NCT is an offence, so there is a chance they were really patrolling that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Can they not do an address lookup from the reg?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    CiniO wrote: »
    Surprisingly in Ireland, parking a vehicle in public place without valid NCT is an offence, so there is a chance they were really patrolling that.

    Just read a news article today saying garda have prosecuted 600,000 motorist and solve zero gang land killings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    visual wrote: »
    Just read a news article today saying garda have prosecuted 600,000 motorist and solve zero gang land killings.

    There's a big difference between prosecuting for relatively minor motor offences and cold blooded killers. Ask any Garda off the record and they'll tell you who committed any offence, from burglary to murder, getting evidence for a prosecution is a completely different matter. Not helped by the incestuous relationship between criminals and solicitors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    CiniO wrote: »
    Surprisingly in Ireland, parking a vehicle in public place without valid NCT is an offence, so there is a chance they were really patrolling that.

    Surprisingly in Ireland, and other countries, some of those vehicles are being driven on regular basis.

    By some I mean most, and it doesn't take a lot of resources to determine which car is genuinely off the road for some time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    wonski wrote: »
    Surprisingly in Ireland, and other countries, some of those vehicles are being driven on regular basis.

    By some I mean most, and it doesn't take a lot of resources to determine which car is genuinely off the road for some time...

    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place.

    Surely drivers vehicles with no test, which are being driven, should be prosecuted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    CiniO wrote: »
    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place.

    Surely drivers vehicles with no test, which are being driven, should be prosecuted.

    No, I know for a fact that any vehicle without a valid inspection sticker can be impounded in certain parts of the US. They don't insist on doing it very much, but I have known it to be done. I had a friend in temporary financial embarrassment who left his car in his designated parking space at his apartment complex (without driving it) for a couple months while it was out of inspection, and it was eventually towed; he couldn't believe it was legal to do, given that it was his personal space that he paid for, but the police said he had no recourse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    CiniO wrote: »
    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place.

    Surely drivers vehicles with no test, which are being driven, should be prosecuted.

    Why make that distinction when the goal is revenue collection. It might be 1809 euro per year motor tax old car that been priced off the road so the more affluent can have cheaper tax on there new diesel bmw.

    Serious crime not taxing your 10 year old big engine car. Bigger crime if you declared it off road as they know you have no intention of back taxing it.

    Common sense never comes into it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭al22


    Up to 40% of the second hand cars on the road should be not on the road at al, because are not fit for purpose. including these wich passed NCT, or being writte offs in Ireland and in abroad and repaired or imported. Heard a new legislation will come this year to fix that problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    al22 wrote: »
    Up to 40% of the second hand cars on the road should be not on the road at al, because are not fit for purpose. including these wich passed NCT, or being writte offs in Ireland and in abroad and repaired or imported. Heard a new legislation will come this year to fix that problem.

    40% of second hand cars you say? That's quite the number!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Two Garda knocked on the door this evening enquiring about a car that's out of nct. They were very nice and there were no issues (car not used in a while). They had a long list with them to get through. Just wondering if this is a common occurrence or just around us (dunshaughlin).

    Two people knocked, with a long list.

    Is there an election coming up?

    Yeah, but no.

    Or, some scam...

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    They were in uniform. The car isn't at the house. It belongs to my brother who is in Canada and is parked up in a garage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    al22 wrote: »
    Up to 40% of the second hand cars on the road should be not on the road at al, because are not fit for purpose. including these wich passed NCT, or being writte offs in Ireland and in abroad and repaired or imported. Heard a new legislation will come this year to fix that problem.

    You really should have shut your eyes at 4:22am


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    sept09baby wrote: »
    They were in uniform. The car isn't at the house. It belongs to my brother who is in Canada and is parked up in a garage.

    Odd though it seems, maybe the Gards are actually checking cars for a change. It's parked up, but is it declared off the road (SORD) or taxed.

    I'd be concerned that the car has been cloned and the clone has been spotted on the road with no NCT.

    How did it end up? were they satisfied or did they say they'd be in touch?


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    Odd though it seems, maybe the Gards are actually checking cars for a change. It's parked up, but is it declared off the road (SORD) or taxed.

    I'd be concerned that the car has been cloned and the clone has been spotted on the road with no NCT.

    How did it end up? were they satisfied or did they say they'd be in touch?

    Or did OP check that the car is still where he thought it was!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CiniO wrote: »
    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place.

    Surely drivers vehicles with no test, which are being driven, should be prosecuted.

    When parked or driven a vehicle is using the public road so it needs to be road legal that means tax, NCT and insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Del2005 wrote: »
    When parked or driven a vehicle is using the public road so it needs to be road legal that means tax, NCT and insurance.

    You're perfectly entitled to have a vehicle without tax, insurance and NCT in your drive way. Its private property. Parked on the road or curb is another story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    What a bizarre thing, interesting to hear all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    CiniO wrote: »
    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place.

    Britain, America, New Zealand to name but a few.

    I've named different parts of the world lest I be accused of just saying this is a European thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    al22 wrote: »
    Up to 40% of the second hand cars on the road should be not on the road at al, because are not fit for purpose. including these wich passed NCT, or being writte offs in Ireland and in abroad and repaired or imported. Heard a new legislation will come this year to fix that problem.

    Ludicrous.
    So everyone should buy a new car every three or four years?
    It's not like we have a native manufacturer that needs protecting by such a scenario.
    Of course, if VRT were phased out over a four or five year period, the national stock would soon become younger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Up to 80% of your posts should be reported as nonsense



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Up to 80% of your posts should be reported as nonsense.

    I too like making up stats

    95% of all statistics are made up. Sorry, UP TO 95%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    Just explained the situation to them and they were fine. No issues there. Just thought it was unusual. Never heard of anything like it before


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Just explained the situation to them and they were fine. No issues there. Just thought it was unusual. Never heard of anything like it before

    Never heard of this before.
    I'm ultra curious, what exactly did they ask you regarding the car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭shakin


    visual wrote: »
    Just read a news article today saying garda have prosecuted 600,000 motorist and solve zero gang land killings.

    What do you suggest, get the traffic corp to start investigating gangland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    95% of all statistics are made up. Sorry, UP TO 95%

    Could you point me to the evidence to support this claim

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Another classic example of Gardaí having to work harder and not smarter, the sooner they have proper ANPR to do this job the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    shakin wrote: »
    What do you suggest, get the traffic corp to start investigating gangland?

    As one told me once he's no ordinary garda but special garda being traffic corp.

    What a utter waste of space driving standard is unbelievable low since these so call experts have risen to top of the pile.

    Watch any 3 lane motorway or carriageway and everyone including the these elite garda hogging over taking lanes.

    I pay my taxes and should be getting something in return in regard of services.

    It feck all use to me if I call garda in emergency to discover it takes 1 or 2 hours response time because they are off on some cross road doing tax checks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    Another classic example of Gardaí having to work harder and not smarter, the sooner they have proper ANPR to do this job the better.

    In fairness it's not the garda on the ground fault that their management is dumb and jumping through politic hoops


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    visual wrote: »
    In fairness it's not the garda on the ground fault that their management is dumb and jumping through politic hoops

    Yes exactly, management can't see the big savings spending some cash will bring in both time and money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    If you think this is a waste.
    I drove north from Lisbon today and came across 2 police cars with flashing lights, one each side of a line painting truck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Another classic example of Gardaí having to work harder and not smarter, the sooner they have proper ANPR to do this job the better.

    Another fine example of how sh1te ANPR is in Ireland, I was told last week from a Traffic Corp officer that it can't even detect what cars are declared on or off the road! Unbelievable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Never heard of this before.
    I'm ultra curious, what exactly did they ask you regarding the car?

    Just said they were calling to enquire about a car that was showing as out of nct for a long time. Explained and they said that's grand and basically they'd tick that car off the list.

    Got a bit of a fright having Garda calling to the house so didn't really ask too many questions. Was only thinking afterwards would they be trying to trace cars sold to those dodgy cash for cars crowds. Never thought of cloning etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    sept09baby wrote: »
    Just said they were calling to enquire about a car that was showing as out of nct for a long time. Explained and they said that's grand and basically they'd tick that car off the list.

    Got a bit of a fright having Garda calling to the house so didn't really ask too many questions. Was only thinking afterwards would they be trying to trace cars sold to those dodgy cash for cars crowds. Never thought of cloning etc


    I had a car that did not have NCT since 2011. I got it tested in June so all is good. I didnt hear from any Gardai about it. Its a bit strange if they are doing calls. Id ring the local station to see whats going on. If they are doing these types of calls then that is some waste of time and money.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Long Time Lurker


    Another classic example of Gardaí having to work harder and not smarter, the sooner they have proper ANPR to do this job the better.

    ANPR doesn't discriminate so everyone who's up to no good gets caught. That's no use when somebody needs to be let off the hook when it suits. That and given the guards proven track record in incompetence, cronyism and corruption can you really expect them to operate and deploy this properly! Don't expect to see ANPR here in full swing anytime soon me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Another fine example of how sh1te ANPR is in Ireland, I was told last week from a Traffic Corp officer that it can't even detect what cars are declared on or off the road! Unbelievable!

    Why would it need to know if it vehicle has been declared off the road? If ANPR picks it up it should be taxed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Why would it need to know if it vehicle has been declared off the road?

    Because tax aside, it's a further offence to declare your vehicle off the road. GARDAI probably don't care for 2 months. Somebody who has sorned that car however would be in a bit more bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Don't expect to see ANPR here in full swing anytime soon me thinks.

    I'm actually waiting for GoSafe to get the contract for this. It will be a 'great idea' with a new press release about 'new technology' and 'use of resources' at the expense of a colossal, can't possibly make a loss tender.

    We've been doing this since the mid-90s. You could have a system, nationwide, in 6 weeks if you were even half serious about wanting it. They just arn't. Typical government contracts and tenders.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CiniO wrote: »
    What I meant was that probably there's no other country than Ireland, which would make it illegal to park a vehicle with no valid test (like NCT) in public place............

    No NCT and it should be on private property or in the scrapyard imo.


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