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NanoFlowCell

  • 04-08-2016 11:13am
    #1
    TBi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭


    Is this the future? Or a scam?

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  • #2
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The future is very hard to predict.

    This technology has been around a while........

    I presume as with Hydrogen, recharging the Fuel will require energy and I don't know how efficient this is but if it's as inefficient as Hydrogen then this flowcell is a dead end and not fast charging cars like they claim.

    We have a electric network everywhere we need more charge points, currently in Ireland the Network has hit a serious dead end because the ESB are not going to pay for chargers with 0 return and giving people free electricity and then they have to maintain the network which could also stop at any moment. investors will not allow this to continue so we need Government support, we pay a lot of tax in this country !

    Battery technology is getting vastly cheaper and better. The more range you have from home the less need you have for a public charging network.

    300-340 Km range is coming for 2018 and that is a decent amount of range from your home charge point. You won't need much more than this in any one day and just 30 mins on a fast charger at current power levels will give you another 100 kms.

    The other point being that the Government can't tax electricity like they do liquid fuels or business and the Economy would collapse and drive many people into poverty. With this flowcell technology governments and companies can do exactly like they do with liquid fuels and that is rip us off.

    You can install solar PV or wind turbine to charge the car too , hopefully in the not so distant future the ESB will give a feed-in-tariff that will be guaranteed for xxx years and maybe the Government provide a grant. The current Government is as green as coal with absolutely no forward vision.


  • #3
    cros13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    The NanoFlowCell stuff is largely a scam to bilk gullible investors. Several of the people involved have a history of involvement in similar schemes (with numerous judgements against them in court to prove it).

    These kinds of flow batteries have severe technical issues including some doozies (such as energy density and many safety issues) which make them particularly unsuitable for an application in vehicles.

    Also... as Mad_Lad has pointed out... we don't need any magic new battery technology. At least for ground passenger transport, cars, buses, trams etc. The battery technology we already have is good enough that with the cost reducing at a similar rate as it has for the last few years, the writing will be on the wall for internal combustion inside ten years.


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