Sna - temporary position NEED INFO URGENTLY

christinek2010

Hi all,

Im looking for some info.

Ive been in a temporary position for the past 12 years in the same school. (Fixedterm) never made fulltime.

As of June I was let go.. not entitled to redundency, panel or anything.

Now a job is after coming up in the same school and I have been informed I will not be offered it, and it will infact go to a women who is there for 6 months due to the fact she is pernament.

Can anyone see how this is allowed? This just seems zo obscene to me and totally unfair?

Johngoose

christinek2010 wrote: »

Hi all,

Im looking for some info.

Ive been in a temporary position for the past 12 years in the same school. (Fixedterm) never made fulltime.

As of June I was let go.. not entitled to redundency, panel or anything.

Now a job is after coming up in the same school and I have been informed I will not be offered it, and it will infact go to a women who is there for 6 months due to the fact she is pernament.

Can anyone see how this is allowed? This just seems zo obscene to me and totally unfair?

As far as I know there is a union for S.N.A.s.I can't comment on the situation myself, but I would give the union a call and see what they say.

christinek2010

Johngoose wrote: »

As far as I know there is a union for S.N.A.s.I can't comment on the situation myself, but I would give the union a call and see what they say.

Thanks john ye i have and they are tryong their best but being quiet slow so i need to try and fond my own info too thank tho

Lady_North1

What kind of contract did you have. Since 2005 all snas had the last in first out contract so I don't understand how you were not permanent.


Edited to add:
Did you have child specific contract? Has the child now left? If this is the case then the school are correct.

christinek2010

Hi, no itz not a child contract i was a class sna in a special school on a fixed term contract renewed each year, no body can see to understand it even the dept of edu,

Lady_North1

What contract did you have? I've never heard of this happening before. There is only one contract for snas. Issued by the department of education. Just doesn't make sense to me. How can you be fixed term for 12 years?
Are there other SNA in the school since you started? We're other let go who arrived before or after you? Very confusing.

christinek2010

Lady_North1 wrote: »

What contract did you have? I've never heard of this happening before. There is only one contract for snas. Issued by the department of education. Just doesn't make sense to me. How can you be fixed term for 12 years?
Are there other SNA in the school since you started? We're other let go who arrived before or after you? Very confusing.

Lady north basically what it was,

She was there in the school for 12 years in a fixed term contract (temporary) which she was covering a job share (two people with full time done jobshare so i got the full time job, so i have been in that position for 12 years but now due to cutbacks i am gone along with 3 others,

A job is after coming up, but due to the fact i am not pernament i have not been even offered the job but someone who has been pernament for 1 year has been offered it above me

Its extremely complicated

Lady_North1

Ok. So you were covering someone else's job while they were job sharing? Is that right?
If that's the case then I'm sorry to say the school is correct. Any cover post does not give you panel rights or redundancy as it was never your job. It was always belonging to someone else.
The only time you'll get panel rights etc is if you are made redundant from your own post. If you are covering sick leave, career break, maternity or filling in a job share post them you don't. I'm sorry to be the barer of bad news but that's how it is.
Happened to a girl in our school. She covered a career break for two years. Person decided not to come back and she was let go and the job given to someone who had panel rights.

It is very confusing but from what you've said unfortunately it's how it is.

christinek2010

Lady_North1 wrote: »

Ok. So you were covering someone else's job while they were job sharing? Is that right?
If that's the case then I'm sorry to say the school is correct. Any cover post does not give you panel rights or redundancy as it was never your job. It was always belonging to someone else.
The only time you'll get panel rights etc is if you are made redundant from your own post. If you are covering sick leave, career break, maternity or filling in a job share post them you don't. I'm sorry to be the barer of bad news but that's how it is.
Happened to a girl in our school. She covered a career break for two years. Person decided not to come back and she was let go and the job given to someone who had panel rights.

It is very confusing but from what you've said unfortunately it's how it is.

Its all very confusing but thanks a million for your advice its such a unfair circumstance and a waste of 12 years, thanks for all your advice?

christinek2010

christinek2010 wrote: »

Its all very confusing but thanks a million for your advice its such a unfair circumstance and a waste of 12 years, thanks for all your advice?

Just one more question,
People keep on mentioning it regarding that i should have been made pernament after 4 years, do u know if theres any truth in it?

Lady_North1

No sorry, that was never the case for snas. Teachers can get some sort of contract after working for certain number of years in one school but not us. ��
Once you were covering someone then it was always going to be their job. I know it seems unfair but you were probably ill advised to stay in that position for so long. It was never going to become your job.

Your best bet now is to just start applying for jobs. There's lots out there at the moment. Your experience will stand to you.

Wish I could have had more positive news.

AlanG

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/newrossstandard/news/former-sna-is-entitled-to-a-lump-sum-tribunal-decides-27518951.html

i know a long time has passed but this may be relevant.