Last Chance U

ben98

Anyone watching this on Netflix? About a college team in East Mississipi filled with talented players who made a few bad choices trying to get their career back. Find it very interesting and much better then Hard Knocks

poldebruin

nope, but looking for something to watch later - cheers I'l give it a go.

TheNap

Yes watched the 1st ep last night really enjoyed it .

Its crazy how popular football is at schools/college level over there.

Always wondered is there clubs outside of the schools that play like GAA and soccer here or is it all school/college level ?

empacher

Yeah watched the first two episodes so far. Kind of like a real life friday night lights.

TonyCochrane

TheNap wrote: »

Yes watched the 1st ep last night really enjoyed it .

Its crazy how popular football is at schools/college level over there.

Always wondered is there clubs outside of the schools that play like GAA and soccer here or is it all school/college level ?

Pretty much school / college - quite expensive in terms of equipment etc, lots of flag football (like tag rugby) but not so much the real thing.

Buttros

Looking forward to it. 2 episodes left of all or nothing. The doc on Amazon about the cards season last year. Also worth a look. Last chance u will be watched after that. Would some of the players in it be in the NFL now?

TitianGerm

I finished it this morning, the past two episodes are the best. Great little mini series. Ollie is some guy!!

ben98

Buttros wrote: »

Looking forward to it. 2 episodes left of all or nothing. The doc on Amazon about the cards season last year. Also worth a look. Last chance u will be watched after that. Would some of the players in it be in the NFL now?

Yeah I must give All or Nothing a watch next. Not now no, a couple might be in the future

TheNap

The coach was a horrible human

Loughc

TheNap wrote: »

The coach was a horrible human

In this show or All or Nothing?

Realt Dearg Sec

Have watched the first three episodes, it's very like Hard Knocks in some ways, but in a sense there's a lot more at stake for these guys. There's some interesting plotlines in it that the documentary doesn't really address head on, but allows to play out under the surface a little. Without giving anything away in terms of spoilers, I really like the focus on the struggle that the academic coordinator woman has just to get these lads to do the bare minimum of work they need to be doing to either stay in the CC or move up to a D1. The inability of some of the players to see beyond the football field even when they must realise that their only hope of staying on that field is by getting the right grades (that are probably not hard to get). And the dawning realisation that these are often lads who have been badly taken advantage of throughout their school years, allowed to get away with whatever they want because of their talent, with nobody really caring about their future, whether in or (more likely) out of the sport.

And it's that sense that they will likely drop out of it, with very little prospects beyond it, that hangs over the whole documentary, and makes all the winning and losing struggles of a normal sporting season seem much more poignant.

I also really like the emphasis on the setting. Apart from the fact that it's a quite modern CC that just rises out of the ground in a spot where there is almost literally nothing else around (be an intereting place to go to College), I love the shots of the town and the cotton fields etc. It gives a sense of why something as seemingly insignificant as Junior College football can take on such huge significance, and the contrast between the town and the hyper modern facilities of the football team (a Junior College remember!) kind of implies how problematic that relationship between place and team actually is.

But still the Hard Knocks style drama about who will be starting QB etc keeps it chugging along nicely. They also have a lot more access than Hard Knocks get.

Tl;dr: It's good.

anewme

Watched it last night! Only the last episode left to watch tonight.

On first viewing, I did not find any of the players likeable at all. They expected to get a pass on everything because they were good at football and knew they were going to be forgiven everything. I did not see many of them see past the end of their noses, that they were given a chance to get an education and that football does not last forever.

I felt sorry for the academic co-ordinator and felt they were taking the p out of her constantly.

One of the guys (DJ I think) said he thought she cared about them, but he could not be sure if she was were genuine, to I think they knew they were being used.

Coach was horrible as was homecoming queen.

Reminded me of the film Carrie. Hard to believe people behave like that.

joe123

Im not even an American Football fan but really enjoyed this. That homecoming queen bit shows how strange the whole culture is. That one going around "vote for me....I love your dress....vote for me....you have pretty eyes". :rolleyes:

Felt bad for

The Wyatt Roberts lad, he seemed to start more games than John Franklin but yet didn't get any offers for D1

anewme

Last episode was brilliant! Great series! Well worth a watch

TheNap

Loughc wrote: »

In this show or All or Nothing?

This show

Charizard

Dont understand how the guy who was first choice qb all season doesnt get a offer from a top school, where the guy who was back up and pretty much ****ed up every opp besides one game against the team considered the worst in there division gets to Auburn

Realt Dearg Sec

Charizard wrote: »

Dont understand how the guy who was first choice qb all season doesnt get a offer from a top school, where the guy who was back up and pretty much ****ed up every opp besides one game against the team considered the worst in there division gets to Auburn

Spoilers, thanks a million.

Charizard

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Spoilers, thanks a million.

Sorry I dont know how to spoiler presumed everyone had finished it

Realt Dearg Sec

Charizard wrote: »

Sorry I dont know how to spoiler presumed everyone had finished it

No worries. For future reference, the "spoiler" icon is right above the text box when you're writing a post (although I dunno if that's true on a phone)

Charizard

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

No worries. For future reference, the "spoiler" icon is right above the text box when you're writing a post (although I dunno if that's true on a phone)

Thats not available to me after investigating it comes after a certain period being a poster on boards. Sorry again guys

jack presley

TheNap wrote: »

The coach was a horrible human

Definitely.

In that game that they lost in OT, didn't he get hit with a sportsmanship foul that probably tacked on 15 years just before the opposition scored a TD? And then after the game he calls the players assholes for not making plays.

And he was so fake during those recruiting visits at the end. Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and from the size of him, that wouldn't be very far

I too felt sorry for Wagner. It was like dealing with pre-school kids for her. Maybe it's because I'm old and it's a generation thing but when someone's talking to you, take off the f*&king earphones and put down the phone.

Good series overall, definitely worth watching.

DDC1990

Interesting news about one of the players in the series.

Wyatt Roberts the starting QB in the series has joined the Miss State team as a walk on

BizzyC

Yeah, the head coach came off looking like an overgrown child from the whole thing.
He's just a terrible human being.

I'll be keeping an eye out for the kids from it though.
I see Ollie has switched to OL now...

jack presley

Season 2 going to be made

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/757719-last-chance-u-season-2-gets-greenlight-from-netflix

Realt Dearg Sec

jack presley wrote: »

Season 2 going to be made

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/757719-last-chance-u-season-2-gets-greenlight-from-netflix

Whoever designed the mobile site for that website needs to be shot. I'm not reading it. Will the second season be set in the same university?

jack presley

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Whoever designed the mobile site for that website needs to be shot. I'm not reading it. Will the second season be set in the same university?

Yeah, same university and same coach. Maybe some of those lads he was trying to recruit in the last episode too.

jack presley

John Franklin, one play for Auburn in the loss to Clemson on Saturday. 1 pass for -3 yards though.

DDC1990

6 guys took snaps for Auburn and 4 Qb's.

Cluster****.

jack presley

East Mississippi won the national title again today.

jack presley

Season 4 starts on 19 July on Netflix.

Don't click on this link if you want to avoid how the season went but recently the head coach if facing blackmail and identity theft charges. Basically he was posing as a solicitor sending threatening letters to members of the press who wrote about his previous f*&k ups.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2843338-last-chance-u-star-jason-brown-arrested-on-blackmail-identity-theft-charges

This guy was an even bigger prick than yer man from East Mississippi.

jack presley

https://twitter.com/LastChanceU/status/1148607741671251968

jack presley

Blitzed through this over the past 2 days. Not great to be honest. We all know the coach is a dick so there was nothing new there and unfortunately for me I had read how the season went so there was no real suspense. The players weren't as interesting as the ones in East Mississippi

BizzyC

I wonder if they'll do another season.
EMCC has been done, Indy is not worth any more coverage....
The other teams of note, Garden state etc dont seem like they'd have enough controversy around them to warrant a season.

jack presley

BizzyC wrote: »

I wonder if they'll do another season.
EMCC has been done, Indy is not worth any more coverage....
The other teams of note, Garden state etc dont seem like they'd have enough controversy around them to warrant a season.

Well the coach there ticks the ‘being a dick’ box which seems to be a requirement. He was calm and respectful during the interview at the end of the series but was a complete arsehole after the game between the two.

alchemist33

I've only watched the two Indy seasons so far but found them very entertaining. The Indy v Garden City games both years were great stuff.

Xavi6

The most recent season was the best yet imo, the storylines are so much better when

the team is struggling

. Jason Brown is a dick but exactly the sort of character a show like this needs.

Realt Dearg Sec

I agree, I thought this past season was the strongest one in some ways. The drama of it was palpable, it was beautifully shot, and I especially liked how it draws the focus increasingly beyond the football field, and even the football players, focusing on local opposition to the team as a resource sponge, and the really vexed questions of the morality of junior college football. And while that stuff has always been a feature of the show I think given the circumstances of the season it takes on a much greater sense of urgency.

Brown is a dick of course, but while his total hypocrisy and self-serving approach is there for all to see, the show does a great job also of revealing what a sad existence his is, the lies he needs to tell himself to keep himself going in the face of relentless criticism and loneliness. I think that's what I like about it best as a show, that it does such a stellar job of exploring the human frailty of all these people, without ever making us feel less invested in what happens on the field either.

If you haven't seen it yet, the bonus episode where they follow up on various people from across the seasons to see where they are now is really great. And more thoroughly condemns the college football system than any of the seasons themselves (even though one player is now with the Rams, which I didn't know).

jack presley

Last football season (switching to Basketball next year) coming on 28 July. Hard to tell if the coach is an A-hole like th other two from the brief trailer.

https://twitter.com/LastChanceU/status/1275427136598409216?s=20

alchemist33

Initially I thought "booooo" to basketball, but after The Last Dance I'll give it a go. Still a pity it's the last football season

alchemist33

It's back on. Really enjoyed the first two episodes. A coach who's more like a normal person, and some really likeable characters so far.

jack presley

I'm only one episode in and it seems like it'll be a decent season. Still figuring out who the interesting players are but the coach seems likeable enough. Maybe it will be discussed in future episodes but there doesn't seem to be any players from major colleges who dropped to JuCo for academic or discipline reasons like there were in the other 2 colleges featured in previous seasons so that's a pity if that turns out to be the case.

I was confused at the start when they were showing the banners and they had one that said '2018 National Champions' as I don't remember them or any team from out west being in the mix anytime in the other seasons. But after a bit go Googling, it seems that there are 2 JuCo organisations, one national and one just for California and they both call their champions, the 'National Champions'. A bit cheeky of the California lads giving themselves that title but I suppose this is a country where the Superbowl, NBA and MLB champions call themselves World Champions!

DDC1990

jack presley wrote: »

I'm only one episode in and it seems like it'll be a decent season. Still figuring out who the interesting players are but the coach seems likeable enough. Maybe it will be discussed in future episodes but there doesn't seem to be any players from major colleges who dropped to JuCo for academic or discipline reasons like there were in the other 2 colleges featured in previous seasons so that's a pity if that turns out to be the case.

I was confused at the start when they were showing the banners and they had one that said '2018 National Champions' as I don't remember them or any team from out west being in the mix anytime in the other seasons. But after a bit go Googling, it seems that there are 2 JuCo organisations, one national and one just for California and they both call their champions, the 'National Champions'. A bit cheeky of the California lads giving themselves that title but I suppose this is a country where the Superbowl, NBA and MLB champions call themselves World Champions!

I could be wrong but from the first Episode I picked up that they don't have any (Or very little) scholarships and so no player would bother to drop down to them to play.

adrian522

alchemist33 wrote: »

Initially I thought "booooo" to basketball, but after The Last Dance I'll give it a go. Still a pity it's the last football season

Check out Hoop dreams if you haven't seen it. It's a very famous documentary following two high school kids from Chicago and their attempts to make it to the NBA. It's from 1994 but is very good.

neris

Good 1st episode. Coach doesn't seem like the egotistical, potty mouthed coaches of the other episodes.

jack presley

DDC1990 wrote: »

I could be wrong but from the first Episode I picked up that they don't have any (Or very little) scholarships and so no player would bother to drop down to them to play.

You're right. They did say they don't offer scholarships or board and I think they even said at one stage in episode 1 that they don't even provide meals. So yeah, a player from a top college probably wouldn't drop down to a California Juco if he had to.

My guess is there's a big gulf in class from the teams we saw in earlier series compared to this lot but I wonder is that true?

raven136

Very different season. Coach is a far better man that all the previous ones.
Episode 4 and its a good watch