USA what do I need to move there?

Madboy84

Thinking of going state side.
What do I need to get there

BuffyBot

Madboy84 wrote: »

Thinking of going state side.
What do I need to get there

Be eligible for US citizenship, have an employer willing to sponsor you for a visa, through marriage to a US citizen, or a win in the Diversity Visa lottery.

BorneTobyWilde

I know a beautiful Mormon girl
Tall blonde slim intelligent and single who loves to bake.

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BuffyBot wrote: »

or a win in the Diversity Visa lottery.

About a 1.25% chance if applying from Ireland based on some historical data. e.g. approx 12k applicants with only 150 winners in recent times. May also be subject to being of 'good character', health, education, financial status etc.

Madboy84

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I know a beautiful Mormon girl
Tall blonde slim intelligent and single who loves to bake.

Sure😊

Madboy84

Makenzie Dry Hamster wrote: »

About a 1.25% chance if applying from Ireland based on some historical data. e.g. approx 12k applicants with only 150 winners in recent times. May also be subject to being of 'good character', health, education, financial status etc.

At least it's a possibility 🙄

jme2010

Makenzie Dry Hamster wrote: »

About a 1.25% chance if applying from Ireland.

I like those odds though. That's 1/80 right? And if you and your wife s.o apply that's a 1/40 because you can just use the others visa.

This year is our year to win

jme2010

Madboy84 wrote: »

Thinking of going state side.
What do I need to get there

If you're not third level educated, forget about it. Then the only way is illegal or win the lottery.

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jme2010 wrote: »

I like those odds though. That's 1/80 right? And if you and your wife s.o apply that's a 1/40 because you can just use the others visa.

Sure 1/40 (up to 40yrs of attempts) with the wife's aplication, although the amount of winners has been decreasing yearly from around 250 5yrs ago to just 150 last year for Ire's 12k applicants (approx).

Perhaps when Don wins in November he may re-emphasis the western-European ratio. Places like Nigeria & Ukraine currently get over 10,000 winners, but then again, they have around 3 million eager yearly applicants between just the two of them.

Christmas Island had a 23% win ratio recently i.e. 3 wins from it's 13 applicants. Hence the 'diversity' aspect of it.

boreder

jme2010 wrote: »

If you're not third level educated, forget about it. Then the only way is illegal or win the lottery.

I moved to the Bay Area without any third level education. I know of many more that did, too.

flynnlives

There was only 63 winners from Ireland this year so the odds have halved again to about a .6% chance of winning

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2016/visa-bulletin-for-july-2016.html

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flynnlives wrote: »

There was only 63 winners from Ireland this year

Shocking, and only 13 Nordie. Obviously there is a requirement from more culturally rich locations such as UZBEKISTAN with their 4,000 visas.

jme2010

boreder wrote: »

I moved to the Bay Area without any third level education. I know of many more that did, too.

That's class. Do you mind if I ask how you managed that?

Lately it seems to me like you'd have to be an exceptional talent in a specialist field to get there. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

jme2010

Makenzie Dry Hamster wrote: »

Shocking, and only 13 Nordie. Obviously there is a requirement from more culturally rich locations such as UZBEKISTAN with their 4,000 visas.

But is that not bullshiit? How can they call it a 'lottery' if the number of selectee's from a country has a cap?

athtrasna

jme2010 wrote: »

But is that not bullshiit? How can they call it a 'lottery' if the number of selectee's from a country has a cap?

It's a weighted lottery, and a diversity lottery.

silja

jme2010 wrote: »

That's class. Do you mind if I ask how you managed that?

Not myself (I came on a spousal visa), but I have several friends who got work visas without 3rd level education; usually they had been working in their field for a long time and had specialised experience (IT, one church organ player), or they had been working in a multi-national in Ireland and were transfwered with their work (Google, HP, Microsoft). It is unusual, but not impossible.

jme2010 wrote: »

But is that not bullshiit? How can they call it a 'lottery' if the number of selectee's from a country has a cap?

It is a lottery within each country, as long as you meet minimum requirements (education, criminal record etc). But the main aim is to keep the USA diverse, thus those countries with fewer immigrants through other means (work visa, family visas) get more of the diversity lottery visas.

boreder

jme2010 wrote: »

That's class. Do you mind if I ask how you managed that?

silja wrote: »

Not myself (I came on a spousal visa), but I have several friends who got work visas without 3rd level education; usually they had been working in their field for a long time and had specialised experience (IT, one church organ player), or they had been working in a multi-national in Ireland and were transfwered with their work (Google, HP, Microsoft). It is unusual, but not impossible.

This. I worked for a multi-national in Ireland, and moved over on a 'specialist knowledge' visa after a couple of years. There was a little extra paperwork when applying for the visa, but it all went to plan.

jme2010

boreder wrote: »

This. I worked for a multi-national in Ireland, and moved over on a 'specialist knowledge' visa after a couple of years. There was a little extra paperwork when applying for the visa, but it all went to plan.

Yeah that's what I meant by third level, usually 'specialist' are basically equivalent.

I was just trying to not get his hopes up in case he was packing shelves in Super Value.

Fathom

Madboy84 wrote: »

Thinking of going state side. What do I need to get there

Track to consider? Takes time. Get US corporate sponsor. Work in stages. Find US corporation in Ireland. Get job with them in Ireland. Perform outstanding. Enquire about their US openings. Example: Johnson & Johnson. Growth Opportunity Network. Internal newspaper. Posts all US domestic JNJ jobs. Many! If you're highly skilled. They may transfer you from Ireland to USA. Their legal department at HQ in NJ handles all paperwork. Sponsor you with corporate muscle. Even help you find apartment.

Spanish Eyes

HEALTH INSURANCE.

Fathom

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

HEALTH INSURANCE.

High health care costs. Yearly double-digit increases.