Hino trucks still sold in Europe?

goochy

Seen a few of the small hino trucks around but not the big trucks on the road or in Harris group on naas road . Isn't there something about them not meeting emission regulations ? A separate note see harris group are now importing Chinese coaches from a company called higger.

Truckermal

goochy wrote: »

Seen a few of the small hino trucks around but not the big trucks on the road or in Harris group on naas road . Isn't there something about them not meeting emission regulations ? A separate note see harris group are now importing Chinese coaches from a company called higger.

They didn't make a Euro 6 engine but I see a few 161 reg truck's around Cork with Euro 4 engines only, not sure how that is legal but it must be.

Awful yoke anyway compared to the competition.

TrailerBob

Fairly sure they're selling mainly on the US and the Asian markets only. They're a Toyota company, who are really holding back on making their bigger engines Euro 6 and Euro 7 compliant. Plenty of their stuff like the 4.5 V8 diesel isn't marketed here.

goochy

I thought emissions there would be stricter than in Europe ?

TrailerBob

Perhaps that's on cars only? That or they use American built engines there, they are a uniquely American design compared to the domestic/euro market stuff.

Markcheese

goochy wrote:

I thought emissions there would be stricter than in Europe ?

Depends what you're emitting... and different regs for trucks and commercials...

Zurbaran

Was wondering why I haven't seen any big Hino units in years. My aul lad had two from 85 & 86, best trucks he ever bought.

ba_barabus

Were they a good trick back in the day? I remember them being everywhere then replaced by Daewoo and finally Scania.

TrailerBob

ba_barabus wrote: »

Were they a good trick back in the day? I remember them being everywhere then replaced by Daewoo and finally Scania.

They were certainly very popular as a 6x4 or 8x4 rigid chassis here. Tippers, mixers, tar lorries and the like. Not so much as artic units. That area was already sewn up with Daf, Scania and Volvo by the late 80's. I don't think they modernised in the same way as the European makes did, which probably contributed to their demise here.

L1011

What's Harris doing, larger vehicle wise, if the Hino gear isn't available?

Zurbaran

TrailerBob wrote: »

They were certainly very popular as a 6x4 or 8x4 rigid chassis here. Tippers, mixers, tar lorries and the like. Not so much as artic units. That area was already sewn up with Daf, Scania and Volvo by the late 80's. I don't think they modernised in the same way as the European makes did, which probably contributed to their demise here.

Over the years we had all of those brands (all artics) along with Mercedes. Hino and Volvo were the most reliable of the lot with DAF being the worst.

goochy

Iveco dont Seem to be doing any better since harris were replaced as importers by Emerald .
Harris Is selling / importing
used trucks
higger coaches
ldv vans
Isuzu - not as popular as they were
ssangyong - not selling very well - he has very few on the NAas road but think that he sends alot out to dealers obviously sell or return .

Shannon757

A local concrete crowd have a 152 and and couple of 2013 Hino 8X4s. I don't know are they getting them off Harris or not.

liam7831

That site would be worth a few quid on the Naas Rd

pablo128

liam7831 wrote: »

That site would be worth a few quid on the Naas Rd

That site won't be idle, though. If its not Hino's it'll be another brand. There was talk of him bringing in a Chinese version of the Hino 700.

liam7831

They are selling them LDV vans too, sold a load to An Post over last year or so, right looking pile of sh ite.

goochy

those Ldv vans are also for the uk as he is uk importer also. I don't think they look too bad , the Transit isn't exactly a looker either.

irish people are not great a giving unfamiliar brands a go ( SsangYong are flying in uk and the other Korean brands were popular there long before they were here) .
think Harris's problem with Ldv will be marketing - they are not a great company at marketing - they should be advertising to the working man - ads. in tabloids - sports sponsorship etc.

liam7831

goochy wrote: »

those Ldv vans are also for the uk as he is uk importer also. I don't think they look too bad , the Transit isn't exactly a looker either.

irish people are not great a giving unfamiliar brands a go ( SsangYong are flying in uk and the other Korean brands were popular there long before they were here) .
think Harris's problem with Ldv will be marketing - they are not a great company at marketing - they should be advertising to the working man - ads. in tabloids - sports sponsorship etc.

Just getting up from rolling around the floor, your comparing a Transit to those pieces of crap, lmao

goochy

I know someone who bought one and had a look at it seemed ok , have you any evidence that they are crap ?
bear in mind they might look the same as original Maxus but share very few parts .
what are basing your opinion on ?

Mycroft H

For what it's worth, I know a postman who's caddy was replaced with a Maxus and he's not one bit pleased. Ball of ****e were his words.

liam7831

goochy wrote: »

I know someone who bought one and had a look at it seemed ok , have you any evidence that they are crap ?
bear in mind they might look the same as original Maxus but share very few parts .
what are basing your opinion on ?

I know a postman that has one, he said a Lada with 3 wheels would be a better drive.

Truckermal

goochy wrote: »

I know someone who bought one and had a look at it seemed ok , have you any evidence that they are crap ?
bear in mind they might look the same as original Maxus but share very few parts .
what are basing your opinion on ?

I reckon you have a pin up of Susan Boyle in your bedroom based on that opinion..:D

FR85

Pino's money is made and he doesn't need Hino's or any of them, lets face that much!! Behans, Reeves, Roadstone, Kilsaran, Hudson and the rest paid for that site 10 times over in the boom days. Look also at Izuzu and the amount of Troopers he sold??
Hs also had the site in Santry and a good foothold in Jennings.

My dad worked for Harris, mainly with his brother Gerry (RIP) years ago and when the FY, GS, SH, FD, FF, FS ect came along to replace the ZM, 336 and HE they couldn't make them quick enough!!
There were four problems with Hinos here, the 6 speed gearbox needed about 3 hours to warm up or it was a pig and then a good few GS's had the Fuller box that the newer younger generation (myself included at the time) thought was a lucky dip gear box......FOUND ONE, lets go!!!!!
The fuel tank on the smaller models was a bit too small and the drivers seat was bolted directly onto the front axel from memory, no air seat at all but a quick trip to Halligans looking for a DAF 2300 soon sorted that.

Hino had a great run here with tractor units, the SH 28 sold brilliantly!!! I think Vanfleet have a few modern tractor units on the go and if memory serves me there was a SH "space cab" released in the late 80's early 90's that were quite comfortable and nice inside. I think these came from a company in the UK who cut the cabs though. Gethings recently restored on and did an amazing job if it.

Emerald have made a balls of Iveco altogether, there are hardly any new Daily's on the road now and that was the bread and butter for Harris along with the FY's and Troopers.

The best one I heard and I don't know if it's 100% was that Pino had a boat load of Hinos just off the coast of Japan heading this way when the Tsunami hit and with out seeing those trucks/kits they were all sold for the relief effort complete with profit.

hi5

liam7831 wrote: »

Just getting up from rolling around the floor, your comparing a Transit to those pieces of crap, lmao

He's comparing looks, the Transit has a pigs snout.

goochy

so how did he lose Iveco ?
assume you mean Jennings in Tullamore ?
The late Pat Jennings was a colourful character but they way he ran his business left a lot to be desired !

Harris may have made his money but he wont be happy to have lost his touch in the motor trade !

SsangYong are doing terribly here but doing well in uk , the fact that they are not as good as mainstream brands is unforgivable when they are priced at market prices.

tipptom

goochy wrote: »

so how did he lose Iveco ?
assume you mean Jennings in Tullamore ?
The late Pat Jennings was a colourful character but they way he ran his business left a lot to be desired !

Harris may have made his money but he wont be happy to have lost his touch in the motor trade !

SsangYong are doing terribly here but doing well in uk , the fact that they are not as good as mainstream brands is unforgivable when they are priced at market prices.

The boardroom upstairs was a sight to behold in Tullamore,all closed up now I think.

FR85

goochy wrote: »

so how did he lose Iveco ?
assume you mean Jennings in Tullamore ?
The late Pat Jennings was a colourful character but they way he ran his business left a lot to be desired !

Harris may have made his money but he wont be happy to have lost his touch in the motor trade !

SsangYong are doing terribly here but doing well in uk , the fact that they are not as good as mainstream brands is unforgivable when they are priced at market prices.

The loss of Iveco was a while coming, before Emerald and between Harris's there was BOD and if I'm honest I'd say one of the main reasons was that to get to parts, service and sales for Iveco you had to drive passed a load of Hinos and Izuzus in customers paint schemes into a Hino and Izuzu building. You never went really near the Iveco yard at all, all that was there was a portacabin or two, the main bones of it was in the Japanese yard......

I can remember being in Jennings as a kid and everyone was on edge as the Italians were in to see the set up, iveco were parked everywhere up front and everything else was hidden, I'm sure Harris's was the same.

Pity about iveco but Emeralds service department are.......I can't say the words I want to use to describe them on a public forum....!!!

goochy

Surprising that harris is just completing a new building at front of fox and geese site - says in the sign it's for harris hino ?

FR85

That's the old coca cola building that was rammed full of D-Maxs?

goochy

its a new glass fronted building - facing onto Naas road and backing onto a derelict building/ site which has been sold. With no hinos being assembled and isuzus not selling great , you would think that they had plenty of excess buildings without building another one.

I am sure I am not alone in being fascinated by this company , theres no other motor business of its size in the country with such a fascinating history/ background.

FR85

goochy wrote: »

its a new glass fronted building - facing onto Naas road and backing onto a derelict building/ site which has been sold. With no hinos being assembled and isuzus not selling great , you would think that they had plenty of excess buildings without building another one.

I am sure I am not alone in being fascinated by this company , theres no other motor business of its size in the country with such a fascinating history/ background.

I hear you on that.....I think he might have had the Kia agency for about 15 minutes too, and that went also

goochy

A couple of years he had that , in fairness the product wasn't as good as it was in later years but still think selling cars is a lot different to trucks . SsangYong should be doing a lot better here - while the Rexton isn't great its priced well - other models in line up over priced.