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Terror in Kabul: 80 dead, 230 injured

  • 24-07-2016 8:13am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭


    Eighty people slaughtered and hundreds injured
    On Saturday, the IS-linked Amaq news agency said two fighters had detonated explosive belts at a "gathering of Shia" in Deh Mazang square, Kabul http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36877151


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    It's not getting 24 news coverage on Sky/BBC/Fox but
    You can spell Kabul, K-A-B-U-L when you light candles to form letters and this is what the Afghani flag looks like when you try to project it on your building or paint on your face #JeSuisKabul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    When did terror attacks become hipster?

    Pointless second post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    snubbleste wrote:
    It's not getting 24 news coverage on Sky/BBC/fox

    Yeah, the lack of coverage is the real tragedy alright...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Yeah, the lack of coverage is the real tragedy alright...
    If it was getting 24h news coverage, we'd have a thread on AH already.
    Shocking, appalling.
    Contact your local Mayor and demand they open a book of condolences and contact TDs and insist on flying Irish flags at half-mast as a mark of respect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Every time one of these massive scale attacks happens in the middle east or Africa it gets a paragraph on the foreign affairs section of a newspaper.

    It's shocking. I am always drawn back to that time of Boko Haram's mass kidnapping of 276 school girls only 2 years ago in Nigeria. Hundreds of these girls are still missing.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-worlds-media-have-failed-in-their-response-to-the-kidnap-of-200-nigerian-schoolgirls-9321186.html

    Hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped into sex slavery by a deranged sociopathic group of religious extremists and it wasn't even covered by western media for weeks after it happened, and these girls are still alive and living in horrific conditions enslaved and raped by their captors, and still there are more newspaper articles written about Madeline McCann than these poor girls. It's shocking.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Collie D wrote: »
    When did terror attacks become hipster?
    :D

    Look let's face facts, for the vast majority of people in any society they react and connect with those most like them. So for Europeans say, ten murdered Europeans trumps one hundred of anyone from anywhere else. Human nature.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Every time one of these massive scale attacks happens in the middle east or Africa it gets a paragraph on the foreign affairs section of a newspaper.

    It's shocking. I am always drawn back to that time of Boko Haram's mass kidnapping of 276 school girls only 2 years ago in Nigeria. Hundreds of these girls are still missing.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-worlds-media-have-failed-in-their-response-to-the-kidnap-of-200-nigerian-schoolgirls-9321186.html

    Hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped into sex slavery by a deranged sociopathic group of religious extremists and it wasn't even covered by western media for weeks after it happened, and these girls are still alive and living in horrific conditions enslaved and raped by their captors, and still there are more newspaper articles written about Madeline McCann than these poor girls. It's shocking.

    I totally agree, only one small problem, it does not even cover tenth of the story in places like Nigeria

    The amount of kidnaps and rapes daily in many African nations is frightening

    You also have be careful, cause I know Nigerian nationals in England complained about the coverage it actually got there because it showed it's country in bad light, they complained to BBC and couple of papers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Zxclnic


    iDave wrote: »
    Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis

    What he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No hope unfortunately unless there all white , Europeans and not Muslim it doesn't have the same draw ,
    We seen outrage when it looked 85 innocent civilians were killed in raid in Syria the other day mostly because people believed America had did it ,
    Turns out 20 were supposedly killed ,
    Munich was the same Isis ,isis ,isis had people foaming at the mouth ,tuned out a German who was bullied ,and non religious,
    And still people trying to twist and turn it to suit an anti Muslim/islam agenda ,

    So yeah as much as it was a horrific attack on a people protesting to have electricity brought to their region a basic human need ,
    Doesn't garner the same faux outrage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Gatling wrote: »
    Doesn't garner the same faux outrage

    Where are you interpreting the Faux part? I, just like any other decent human being, deplore the atrocity in Afghanistan, however as I've never travelled to the region, nor have I any Afghani friends, I of course am going to relate more to the victims of the France and Belgium attacks as I've visited these areas, and have friends, colleagues, and family from same. That's not to say their deaths carry more weight, not for one moment.

    The social media you are currently exposing yourself to is admittedly focusing on the European attacks, but conversely, media outlets located in the Middle East/ Asia are instead concerned with the Kabul attack whilst Germany is nothing but a sidebar. It's a straightforward concept that one might be able to relate more to a death on one's doorstep than to one on the opposite side of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    I fear this is simply an issue of scale - an attack with a hundred dead in Europe is a comparative rarity, maybe once every few years (increasing frequency recently though), whereas one of these attacks in the MENA/Africa region just seems par for the course to us now. Donor fatigue might be a decent analogy; when all you hear about from a region is how desperate and terrible things are, when the refrain is always 'give more', eventually people become inured to it.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where are you interpreting the Faux part? I, just like any other decent human being, deplore the atrocity in Afghanistan, however as I've never travelled to the region, nor have I any Afghani friends, I of course am going to relate more to the victims of the France and Belgium attacks as I've visited these areas, and have friends, colleagues, and family from same. That's not to say their deaths carry more weight, not for one moment.

    The social media you are currently exposing yourself to is admittedly focusing on the European attacks, but conversely, media outlets located in the Middle East/ Asia are instead concerned with the Kabul attack whilst Germany is nothing but a sidebar. It's a straightforward concept that one might be able to relate more to a death on one's doorstep than to one on the opposite side of the world.
    You're simply describing what is happening, but entirely missing the point, which is that what is happening is without any moral justification.

    Yes, we as a society feel more outraged about terrorist attacks in mainland Europe or North America, even when we are aware that our friends and colleagues are not caught-up in these attacks.

    We already know that.

    But what is the logical or moral justification for this?

    As has also been mentioned, there was a hell of a lot more anger about deaths in Syria when it was assumed (perhaps wrongly, it now seems) that US airstrikes had killed over 80 civilians.

    I personally find the selective outrage difficult to understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    You're simply describing what is

    I personally find the selective outrage difficult to understand.

    It's really quite simple, we are more likely to voice our horror, empathy, and understanding with a victim of a car accident in our neighborhood, than one on the opposite side of the planet. Both lives are of equal value, we just can acknowledge the loss better with the former. There's no shame in recognising this.


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