Felling of trees in Salthill Park

superman1234

Looks like a private homeowner got the trees cut down . Is that legal? . It is a public park . I assume it illegal. Thanks

biko

Which park? The big one next to Leisureland?
Go into the Salthill Gardai station and ask if a Felling Notice have been applied for.

superman1234

yes the park that the salthill 5s are held on each year the mature evergreens at the back wall were cut down. cheers

Happyilylost

This incident was reported in the local media. It is being investigated by the council and gardai.

youngrun

http://galwaybayfm.ie/council-investigating-felling-mature-trees-salthill/

No permit granted apparently....

Sconsey

All sorts of stories going round about this: apparently it was done late at night, the guards turned up but the workmen showed them a permit which now looks like was a fake!. How did the guards not figure this was suspect doing it so late at night.... I took a pic

superman1234

Yeah i walked past it today and saw the trees laying on the ground and read a few news articles . Council said permission not given for the tree felling .

snubbleste

what_traffic

superman1234 wrote: »

Looks like a private homeowner got the trees cut down . Is that legal? . It is a public park . I assume it illegal. Thanks

What was the reason? Was it a Sunlight issue do you know superman1234?

snubbleste

what_traffic wrote: »

What was the reason? Was it a Sunlight issue do you know superman1234?

Obviously it is speculation, but sunlight & view

Gremlinertia

The other reason cited is anti social behaviour. Local residents have been to the gardai and council.

what_traffic

Gremlinertia wrote: »

The other reason cited is anti social behaviour. Local residents have been to the gardai and council.

How are trees anti social? Or are youngsters hiding in the trees? What kind of trees are they anyhow that have been chopped down?

Gremlinertia

Yoof drinking in the evenings..

Although I must say trees are champions for loitering :pac:

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

How are trees anti social? Or are youngsters hiding in the trees? What kind of trees are they anyhow that have been chopped down?

Bushing doesn't only happen behind churches, you know.

what_traffic

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Although I must say trees are champions for loitering :pac:

They sure are! Ha ha
The type of trees that are replanted will be important. Can alleviate this Yoof drinking/Bushing if it is a problem here.

Notch000

they look like liandi trees which are almost a weed.

Was anyone ever held responsivble for culling some 100's of year old trees (oak?) in eyre square and replace then with 14M euros worth of chineese concrete ??? doubt it

beardybrewer

what_traffic wrote: »

How are trees anti social? Or are youngsters hiding in the trees? What kind of trees are they anyhow that have been chopped down?

If only we lived in a desert everyone would get along and everything would be great!

what_traffic

beardybrewer wrote: »

If only we lived in a desert everyone would get along and everything would be great!

Good luck with that!

what_traffic

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/local-residents-up-in-arms-as-council-investigate-felling-of-mature-trees-in-public-park-34899586.html

"
Local residents in Knocknacarra are reportedly “up in arms” after discovering the trees had been felled and that the fallen trees had been left in situ.
"

Would have thought it would be Salthill residents?

thesandeman

beardybrewer wrote: »

If only we lived in a desert everyone would get along and everything would be great!

It would be difficult to cycle through that.









*runs and hides*

TerrorFirmer

There was a story last week about anti-social behavior around there, and word was that the Gardai were more or less uninterested in the issue, so maybe one resident decided to take matters into their own hands to move it away from their back door.

Ha. Antisocial trees.

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/local-residents-up-in-arms-as-council-investigate-felling-of-mature-trees-in-public-park-34899586.html

"
Local residents in Knocknacarra are reportedly “up in arms” after discovering the trees had been felled and that the fallen trees had been left in situ.
"

Would have thought it would be Salthill residents?

Salthill residents are happy that the bushing crew have moved on.
Knocknacarra residents aren't so happy to welcome them home.

inisboffin

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Salthill residents are happy that the bushing crew have moved on.
Knocknacarra residents aren't so happy to welcome them home.

Yeah, the bushin' crew won't have anywhere to sit now, like tree stumps. Oh wait...:P

snubbleste

Trees are a public nuisance

biko

Trees and bees, these are things we could do without.

galwaycyclist

thesandeman wrote: »

It would be difficult to cycle through that.

*runs and hides*

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snubbleste

^^^^^^
hubba hubba!

Rambler11

Sconsey wrote:

All sorts of stories going round about this: apparently it was done late at night, the guards turned up but the workmen showed them a permit which now looks like was a fake!. How did the guards not figure this was suspect doing it so late at night....

The felling of the trees took place on Saturday for most of the day..I was nearby and it was very noisy. I passed a couple of galway city council vans on Friday evening although they have since said there was no permit...or something along those lines.

snubbleste

Tribune reports: Garda and Council investigations are ongoing into the felling, which is understood to have been carried out by a private contractor on the instructions of a local resident. The resident in question had approached the Council to discuss if the trees could be cut down, but “absolutely no” permission was granted.

Discodog

snubbleste wrote: »

Tribune reports: Garda and Council investigations are ongoing into the felling, which is understood to have been carried out by a private contractor on the instructions of a local resident. The resident in question had approached the Council to discuss if the trees could be cut down, but “absolutely no” permission was granted.

The contractor will take the can as it was up to him to ensure that the customer owned the trees/land. I doubt if it's anyone local or reputable as they would of checked.

stampydmonkey

Discodog wrote: »

The contractor will take the can as it was up to him to ensure that the customer owned the trees/land. I doubt if it's anyone local or reputable as they would of checked.

The private individual who engaged the contractor and the contractor should be made replace the trees like for like....I sincerely doubt this will happen tho knowing the state of the council

Discodog

Plus the Council shouldn't allow Leylandii trees to grow like that. Maybe the homeowner had a decent view, light etc & the trees were just allowed to grow way too tall. I can see both sides in this.

ronnie3585

They're not Leylandii.

gordongekko

ronnie3585 wrote: »

They're not Leylandii.

They are firewood now

Discodog

ronnie3585 wrote: »

They're not Leylandii.

In that case they were there before the houses.

ronnie3585

Discodog wrote: »

In that case they were there before the houses.

Yeah, they were there around 60 years.

Discodog

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Yeah, they were there around 60 years.

So no excuses. But they will only get a fine - if that.

thesandeman

Discodog wrote: »

So no excuses. But they will only get a fine - if that.

They should be strung up from a branch........







Oh!

Stevolende

Couldn't they just import some poison ivy or something and plant it there. Rather than cutting trees down.
Not sure fi there would be a more local/indigenous alternative.

Also not sure how badly that stuff spreads, but might just help prevent anybody else from enjoying the park.

dubhthach

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

There was a story last week about anti-social behavior around there, and word was that the Gardai were more or less uninterested in the issue, so maybe one resident decided to take matters into their own hands to move it away from their back door.

"Anti-social behaviour" has been going on there for over 30+ years, Gardaí never done anything about it tbh

inisboffin

Stevolende wrote: »

Couldn't they just import some poison ivy or something and plant it there. Rather than cutting trees down.
Not sure fi there would be a more local/indigenous alternative.

Also not sure how badly that stuff spreads, but might just help prevent anybody else from enjoying the park.

Theory good. Practice: Nooooooooo!:eek: Poison Ivy in Ireland? Actually introducing any more non native species in Ireland is a disaster. Places are already overrun with 'ornamental' species that ran amok.

JohnCleary

dubhthach wrote: »

"Anti-social behaviour" has been going on there for over 30+ years, Gardaí never done anything about it tbh

If it curbs the anti-social behavior up there, good riddance to the trees. When I used to walk through there as a short-cut in the mornings, place used to be full of rubbish (cans / bottles). During the evenings, you could hear people drinking up there from quite a distance, must have been a nightmare for local residents.

thesandeman

JohnCleary wrote: »

During the evenings, you could hear people drinking up there from quite a distance, must have been a nightmare for local residents.

In fairness, the Garda station is across the road. They can easily do a walk through while they are having a smoke break or whatever (although people would probably complain about that as well).

what_traffic

Any Landscape Architects or designers out there?
What would the ideal replacement tress be here and rough guide on the cost? (Presuming replacement tress will be of a couple of years old when planted.)

McTigs

what_traffic wrote: »

Any Landscape Architects or designers out there?
What would the ideal replacement tress be here and rough guide on the cost? (Presuming replacement tress will be of a couple of years old when planted.)

Nothing could replace the monkey tree

JohnCleary

thesandeman wrote: »

In fairness, the Garda station is across the road. They can easily do a walk through while they are having a smoke break or whatever (although people would probably complain about that as well).

And this is what used to p1ss me off. Right under the nose of the Garda station, yet constant anti-social behaviour. I have no issues with people drinking a few cans, but to leave rubbish / cause a nuisance is not on. Residents have a right to live in peace

(Before anyone attempts a smart-arse reply, I don't live in that area)

Discodog

A simple garden hose would of done the trick