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Penalty points on a learners permit.

  • 19-07-2016 9:55am
    #1
    P1ston H3ad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭


    Hi all,

    IN ADVANCE****
    If this question is in the irrelevant section, I would appreciate if someone could guide me towards it, or move this thread.

    Had abit of a problem yesterday. Got stopped by the Garda for the first time ever. I was on a motorbike. They told me I was speeding, but didn't take any of my information down, and didn't tell me im getting fine. They asked me to produce my licence and insurance at the local Garda station as I didn't have it on me at the time.

    This is my second learner permit - first I received in 2013, prior the 7 penalty point law came in.

    The first permit I held was for a car only, but this permit, which I received only last year, is for both a motorbike and a car.

    I have read that the 7 penalty point system applies only to learners holding their first permit, but would like some clarification if any of you may know. Does this apply to me? Or does this permit counts as my first as it was my first permit including a motorbike - the vehicle I was driving?

    Would like to know what to expect going into the Garda station later on.

    Thanks in advance!


Comments

  • #2
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    OSI wrote: »
    Should be a code on the back somewhere that's either 991 or 992. If it's 991 it's classed as your first permit, 992 is your second.

    I'm on my second permit and it still has 991 on the back.


  • #3
    P1ston H3ad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭P1ston H3ad


    I will check it out now. Thanks guys.

    Now the second question is - I failed to produce a licence on the spot, as well as breaking the speed limit.
    Do the penalty points add on top of one another, Eg 3 for speeding, and 1 for not being able to produce licence on the spot = 4 points.

    Or do the points count towards the highest offence at the time of the stop? Eg 3 vs 1 = 3 points.


  • #4
    noel100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭noel100


    You can get several point in one go but it is only the highest amount that you receive say the highest is 3 that is all you get


  • #5
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    PeteK* wrote: »
    Where did you get that information from?
    I don't agree with it.

    It's true.

    You can get multiple fines, but only points for one offence.


  • #6
    PeteK*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭PeteK*


    mikeecho wrote: »
    It's true.

    You can get multiple fines, but only points for one offence.

    Do you mean in court or before it gets to that stage?

    I'd like to read it


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  • #7
    cantdecide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    OSI wrote: »
    Should be a code on the back somewhere that's either 991 or 992. If it's 991 it's classed as your first permit, 992 is your second.
    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    I'm on my second permit and it still has 991 on the back.

    That code is specific to each category. For example, if a 16yo gets a first time 2 year learner permit for category W (991) and a year later adds category B (991), the licence term will still relate to the same two year period. However, when he goes to renew the permit, category W will proceed to 992 but because B was not held for a full term and will revert to 991 again. This is despite appearing on his 'second' learner permit.


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