Joe Duffy Nation

ClovenHoof

I was just reading over the comments sections of all Irish newspapers and Livelineism is pretty much the norm in this country. People arrogantly pontificating on subjects they know nothing about.

One article on increasing population density in Dublin is met with "Reopen all the boarded up houses in leitrim and donegal and Microsoft and google will follow. Dublin is killing the country"

Yet this simple, child like comment based on infantile emotionality gets hundreds of thumbs up as if the world is that simple. I looked at the guy's other comments and he was anti pylons in rural Ireland. So apparently his Microsoft centre in Inver will be powered by steam.

What the hell is wrong with these bastards.

Wibbs

ClovenHoof wrote: »

Dublin is killing the country

More like Dublin is paying for the rest of the country.

There are a lot of gombeen men and women in this nation of ours and these eejits are easily influenced, ruled and riled up. So not a surprise CH.

ClovenHoof

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was just reading over the comments sections of all Irish newspapers and Livelineism is pretty much the norm in this country. People arrogantly pontificating on subjects they know nothing about.

Oen article on increasing population density in Dublin is met with "Reopen all the boarded up houses in leitrim and donegal and Microsoft and google will follow. Dublin is killing the country"

Yet this simple, child like comment based on infantile emotionality gets hundreds of thumbs up as if the world is that simple. I looked at the guy's other comments and he was anti pylons in rural Ireland. So apparently his Microsoft centre in Inver will be powered by steam.

What the hell is wrong with these bastards.

They are not bastards probably a little naive, the one thing I found is that people want to believe the simple answer and the media oblige them.

Renegade Mechanic

Less pylons there are the better, tbh.
Nothing wrong with putting them underground...

PARlance

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was just reading over the comments sections....

That's where you went wrong.

ClovenHoof

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Less pylons there are the better, tbh.
Nothing wrong with putting them underground...

I suggest you stand next to and experience the EMF they throw off. They would sterilize the landscape of all life near them.

SEPT 23 1989

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I suggest you stand next to and experience the EMF they throw off. They would sterilize the landscape of all life near them.

You're Unbelievable

Renegade Mechanic

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I suggest you stand next to and experience the EMF they throw off. They would sterilize the landscape of all life near them.

But they're fine in the air where that EMF travels much farther, right...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhyh7ugGjFc

Edit: Ah, I just got the real meaning, pah hahaha ffs

gramar

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Less pylons there are the better, tbh.
Nothing wrong with putting them underground...

You'd need to dig a fairly big hole to put a whole pylon underground.

Permabear

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ClovenHoof

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You're Unbelievable

If that was intented as a pun it was ****ing epic!

Well Done.

5rtytry56

none of the Liveline thread crew have posted here yet I see, so to speak.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Wibbs wrote: »

More like Dublin is paying for the rest of the country.

There are a lot of gombeen men and women in this nation of ours and these eejits are easily influenced, ruled and riled up. So not a surprise CH.

Or you could say that people commuting and being forced to move to Dublin are propping up it's economy.

I love the way people somehow think that Dublin being the centre of economic activity in this country is something we should be grateful for rather than it just pure luck due to it's location.

ClovenHoof

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Or you could say that people commuting and being forced to move to Dublin are propping up it's economy.

I love the way people somehow think that Dublin being the centre of economic activity in this country is something we should be grateful for rather than it just pure luck due to it's location.

Norway is Oslocentric, Austria is Viennacentric, Bavaria is Munichcentric and so on. Just how nations around this size tend to me.

I will say this though, Ireland badly needs the likes of Cork, Limerick and Galway to triple in population size as compared to the countries I have listed above, we do not have good size smaller cities and this is DIRECTLY a result of this "Microsoft for Muff!" mentality.

The biggest disaster of the tiger years was the lack of growth of provinicial cities at the expense of Gombeen Housing States in Leitrim villages.

The idiots running Cork need to understand that it is rural Ireland holding their city back, and not Dublin.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Or you could say that people commuting and being forced to move to Dublin are propping up it's economy.

I love the way people somehow think that Dublin being the centre of economic activity in this country is something we should be grateful for rather than it just pure luck due to it's location.

Its a world wide phenomenon urbanisation is happening all over the world.

Globally, more people live in urban areas than in
rural areas, with 54 per cent of the world’s population
residing in urban areas in 2014. In 1950, 30
per cent of the world’s population was urban[/B], and
by 2050, 66 per cent of the world’s population is
projected to be urban.
• Today, the most urbanized regions include Northern
America (82 per cent living in urban areas in
2014), Latin America and the Caribbean (80 per
cent), and Europe (73 per cent). In contrast, Africa
and Asia remain mostly rural, with 40 and 48 per
cent of their respective populations living in urban
areas. All regions are expected to urbanize
further over the coming decades. Africa and Asia
are urbanizing faster than the other regions and
are projected to become 56 and 64 per cent urban,
respectively, by 2050

https://esa.un.org/unpd/wup/Publications/Files/WUP2014-Highlights.pdf

gramar

Ireland would be a lot better off with 4 or 5 decent sized cities instead of Dublin dwarfing everywhere else.
The only way that will ever happen is if indutry is encouraged to locate in these areas. People follow jobs and always have.

ClovenHoof

gramar wrote: »

Ireland would be a lot better off with 4 or 5 decent sized cities instead of Dublin dwarfing everywhere else.
The only way that will ever happen is if indutry is encouraged to locate in these areas. People follow jobs and always have.

Yes, but sadly the GAA rural team is still the primary planning and regional development criteria for the country.

No Parish Left Behind, and our national paralysis as a result.

Fleawuss

Population follows jobs but also follows life. Small towns offer misery. Attempting to artificially sustain economies and communities will always fail. What is the problem with accepting Glenroe is dead and planning properly to cater for urban population? Sentimentality? Decentralization as an ideology or a racket for some local chancer?

kylith

Wasn't there uproar when decentralisation was mooted? People like to bitch about how Dublin's leaching the life and youth from the rest of the country, but are damned if they'll live anywhere else.

One of the main issues with this country is the transport. A decent TGV style train would get from Dublin to pretty much any corner of the country in under an hour.

jayobray

Fleawuss wrote: »

Population follows jobs but also follows life. Small towns offer misery. Attempting to artificially sustain economies and communities will always fail. What is the problem with accepting Glenroe is dead and planning properly to cater for urban population? Sentimentality? Decentralization as an ideology or a racket for some local chancer?

Kilcoole is thriving, thanks very much!

conorhal

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was just reading over the comments sections of all Irish newspapers and Livelineism is pretty much the norm in this country. People arrogantly pontificating on subjects they know nothing about.

One article on increasing population density in Dublin is met with "Reopen all the boarded up houses in leitrim and donegal and Microsoft and google will follow. Dublin is killing the country"

Yet this simple, child like comment based on infantile emotionality gets hundreds of thumbs up as if the world is that simple. I looked at the guy's other comments and he was anti pylons in rural Ireland. So apparently his Microsoft centre in Inver will be powered by steam.

What the hell is wrong with these bastards.

Ah take your illinformed rant and give Joe Duffy a call, you are the very personification of 'next caller'.....

He's talkin' nonsense Joe!, the real problem is the bleedin' boggers!

Arghus

It's a disgrace Joe.

EndaHonesty

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was just reading over the comments sections of all Irish newspapers and Livelineism is pretty much the norm in this country. People arrogantly pontificating on subjects they know nothing about.

One article on increasing population density in Dublin is met with "Reopen all the boarded up houses in leitrim and donegal and Microsoft and google will follow. Dublin is killing the country"

Yet this simple, child like comment based on infantile emotionality gets hundreds of thumbs up as if the world is that simple. I looked at the guy's other comments and he was anti pylons in rural Ireland. So apparently his Microsoft centre in Inver will be powered by steam.

What the hell is wrong with these bastards.

This is a satirical post? Or ironic?

kylith

Fleawuss wrote: »

Population follows jobs but also follows life. Small towns offer misery. Attempting to artificially sustain economies and communities will always fail. What is the problem with accepting Glenroe is dead and planning properly to cater for urban population? Sentimentality? Decentralization as an ideology or a racket for some local chancer?

But there can be no life in a town without people. If a workforce is attracted to live there then shops, cafés, cinemas etc. will follow.

Fleawuss

Fleawuss wrote: »

Population follows jobs but also follows life. Small towns offer misery. Attempting to artificially sustain economies and communities will always fail. What is the problem with accepting Glenroe is dead and planning properly to cater for urban population? Sentimentality? Decentralization as an ideology or a racket for some local chancer?

And the bases of dreamy sentimental documentary's usually make by someone with a holiday home in the west, but living and working in Dublin or some academic poet religious type that contends that all healing is to found in rural life.

topper75

I'll eat a crow out of a ditch before I live in a city.

And you can print that.

topper75

topper75 wrote: »

I'll eat a crow out of a ditch before I live in a city.

And you can print that.

Yeah lot of people prefer country life that is not the issue, The point I think is that urbanisation is not going to stop no matter what the public policy initiatives are it is like trying to hold back the tide.

topper75

mariaalice wrote: »

Yeah lot of people prefer country life that is not the issue, The point I think is that urbanisation is not going to stop no matter what the public policy initiatives are it is like trying to hold back the tide.

That point is sad but true I accept.

Would I be a callous bastard to talk about peak people?

topper75

topper75 wrote: »

That point is sad but true I accept.

Would I be a callous bastard to talk about peak people?

That is a good point as well, but that is related to the cost of family formation which has become enormous for the average person.

diomed

ClovenHoof wrote: »

What the hell is wrong with these bastards.

I would vote for you just for that comment.

lawlolawl

Let's all move to the slums lads, it'll be great craic!

Gbear

kylith wrote: »

Wasn't there uproar when decentralisation was mooted? People like to bitch about how Dublin's leaching the life and youth from the rest of the country, but are damned if they'll live anywhere else.

One of the main issues with this country is the transport. A decent TGV style train would get from Dublin to pretty much any corner of the country in under an hour.

If you get me €9B I'll build your TGV

Fleawuss

kylith wrote: »

Wasn't there uproar when decentralisation was mooted? People like to bitch about how Dublin's leaching the life and youth from the rest of the country, but are damned if they'll live anywhere else.

One of the main issues with this country is the transport. A decent TGV style train would get from Dublin to pretty much any corner of the country in under an hour.

This is Ireland. You would have some cnut of a county councilor pulling a stroke that the TGV should stop for ( local integration, end to rural isolation, addressing marginalization of the disadvantaged, whatever) at BALLYmhicThomasinAnAsal every third Tuesday after the first full moon after the feast of the Decension. I'm amazed the motorways got built actually.

The Specialist

If we could float Dublin away from the country it would be a grand place. Arrogant self important *****.

endacl

It's that feckin' industrial revolution they're all going on about up in Dublin with their mobile pokemons and their feckin' U2! Gone to the dogs it is Joe so it is. A feckin' disgrace.

:mad:

EICVD

jayobray wrote: »

Kilcoole is thriving, thanks very much!

How's Miss Kavanagh these days?

EICVD

topper75 wrote: »

I'll eat a crow out of a ditch before I live in a city.

And you can print that.

But that is the best way to eat a crow, apparently.........

EICVD

The Specialist wrote: »

If we could float Dublin away from the country it would be a grand place. Arrogant self important *****.

Oh if only we could float away from the rest of the country, what a lovely thought to end the day......

Rothko

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was just reading over the comments sections of all Irish newspapers and Livelineism is pretty much the norm in this country. People arrogantly pontificating on subjects they know nothing about.

Sounds just like Boards

Grayson

Suas11 wrote: »

Sounds just like Boards

nothing on the comments section on the journal.ie That place makes youtube comments seem articulate.