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Wondering why certain Car manufactures have such a bad name ?

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  • 15-07-2016 12:16pm
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    LizzyBennet
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    I have been told by a couple of mechanics over the years not to buy the likes of Opel & Peugeot but have never actually been told why. Im looking for a new car and although i would love a Vw golf i cant afford one both Peugeot and Opels have caught my eye but I've just been told so many times to keep away from them I would really like to know why they have such a bad name ?


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    jcon1913
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭jcon1913


    LizzyBennet wrote: »
    I have been told by a couple of mechanics over the years not to buy the likes of Opel & Peugeot but have never actually been told why. Im looking for a new car and although i would love a Vw golf i cant afford one both Peugeot and Opels have caught my eye but I've just been told so many times to keep away from them I would really like to know why they have such a bad name ?

    Cant say, it would depend on the model. Plenty of guys on here have more experience on the mechanics.

    I have owned 2 zafiras, never a bother on them, ran one up to 120k miles before getting rid. That said i drove it like an old man. V slowly.
    I had a 2.7l audi a80 drove it like a hooligan it was a money pit. So treat them well it will be better in the long run 😄


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    Red Kev
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    A lot of it is down to clueless barstool talk, along with the general fear of people to speak out against what's considered to be a consensus.

    All car manufacturers got through good and bad phases of production, but to say that one particular make is always bad is simply daft.


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    yobr
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭yobr


    Are chevrolets that bad?


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,158 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    No the ones we get here are usually worse than bad. Normally GM cast offs or rebadged Daewoos.


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    Mintoe
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Mintoe


    LizzyBennet wrote: »
    I have been told by a couple of mechanics over the years not to buy the likes of Opel & Peugeot but have never actually been told why. Im looking for a new car and although i would love a Vw golf i cant afford one both Peugeot and Opels have caught my eye but I've just been told so many times to keep away from them I would really like to know why they have such a bad name ?

    some makes/models are better or worse than others... But hey wouldn't life be wicked boring if we all liked/bought the same car. Luckily everyone has their own preferences and www.parkers.co.uk is a really good unbiased place to research almost any make & model.
    Ignore others opinions and form your own.


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    toyotamechanic
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    If you would buy new car its different story,you care maintain the car and that can lead to be happy even with Opel,Ford,French or Korean cars.As mentioned here every company have good and bad times,models.If you would be more specific to mark/models you're interested that will give a chance to make opinion.
    Auto test wold show you some results of one or the other model in reliability.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    Make is not an accurate guide to reliability, only the model is, and it changes from one revision of that model to another.


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    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »
    Make is not an accurate guide to reliability, only the model is, and it changes from one revision of that model to another.

    I'd argue servicing is even more indicative of longterm reliability. Lots of people buy new cars and won't service them.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I'd argue servicing is even more indicative of longterm reliability. Lots of people buy new cars and won't service them.

    true, but all other things being equal, some models stand up to the poor standards of servicing and in Ireland a lot better than others.


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    Renegade Mechanic
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    yobr wrote: »
    Are chevrolets that bad?

    Don't know now, as I haven't been around many new ones but they're on older GM (Opel) bits.
    The older ones were grand I thought. Daewoos (again, old GM/old Opel) with a new badge. Simple as a car can be, while still passing EU approval. If they gave trouble, it was rarely serious. And ultra rarely electrical :D

    I actually quite like the look of some of them.
    Chevrolet-Aveo_RS_Concept-2010-hd.jpg


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,158 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Yes but this is what we get:

    media?xwm=y&id=4ab8d740-1da8-4142-80b6-5b21deaf4607&width=400&height=300


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    toyotamechanic
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭toyotamechanic


    But if we would get ones like blue above it woudnt change its 900kg of plastic.
    We wont see in next years Chevrolet(Deawoo with slighty better name)as GM will
    finishing saling these cars on european market to keep Opel alive-one of the few moves they done to avoid Opel bankruptcy.


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    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    toyotamechanic wrote: »
    But if we would get ones like blue above it woudnt change its 900kg of plastic.
    We wont see in next years Chevrolet(Deawoo with slighty better name)as GM will
    finishing saling these cars on european market to keep Opel alive-one of the few moves they done to avoid Opel bankruptcy.

    They already did - like two years ago... Chevrolet Europe entity was completely dissolved this year.


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    endabob1
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »
    Make is not an accurate guide to reliability, only the model is, and it changes from one revision of that model to another.

    Indeed and even depending on what variation you buy the Fiesta for example uses (or used to use)a ford/mazda developed petrol engine but a Peugeot developed diesel engine.

    So people buying a Diesel 207 & a Fiesta are buying the same engine, often not knowing....

    Renault, Dacia & Nissan all use the same engines the 1.5 diesel is standard across their models. It really is worth doing a bit of research into these things.


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