Garda vetting

risteard7

My Vetting is due for renewal but my employer wants €15 to do it. I always understood it was free?

They want me to download the forms then send them back to the company with €15 postal order. They will then E-mail me the E-vetting forms to complete online.

Fred Swanson

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Steve

http://www.garda.ie/FAQ/Default.aspx?FAQCategory=36

It's free of charge.

I'd be asking them for payment for the time spent filling out the forms :pac:

Cavan Bear

I think that a Police Certificate is free of charge but a fee applies for Garda Vetting which I believe is different than applying for a Police Certificate.

Livefornow

Garda Vetting has never been charged for for sports organisations

Subcomandante Marcos

Garda vetting is free to the employer, employee and volunteer.

Someone in HR trying to pull a fast one.

Cavan Bear

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Garda vetting is free to the employer, employee and volunteer.

Someone in HR trying to pull a fast one.

I have never had to pay to be Garda Vetted but I worked for the public sector at the time. It looks like private companies and employers charge for Garda vetting. I think that if I myself as an individual go to get Garda vetted there is a processing fee of 6.35. Some employers charge 10 euro and upwards.

brian_t

Cavan Bear wrote: »

I think that if I myself as an individual go to get Garda vetted there is a processing fee of 6.35.

"Garda Vetting is conducted only on behalf of registered organisations and is not conducted for individual persons on a personal basis."

http://www.garda.ie/controller.aspx?Page=66

risteard7

I had to pay a €15 "processing fee" as they called it.

Cavan Bear

I had to pay 11 euro to an agency today for Garda Vetting. They told me that a new rule came into effect as of May 2016. Prior to that if you were Garda vetted, that documentation was acceptable for future employment. Although I will be provided with a copy of my documentation it is useless if I go to another agency/employer as they have to have me Garda vetted which I will have to pay for all over again.
This is the information given to me today by an individual in an agency.

Subcomandante Marcos

Right lads, agencies and your HR departments are basically charging you for the time it takes them to process the documentation. There's no fee at all from the Gardai for doing it.

Vetting was NEVER transferable, it was and is attached to the organisation that submitted it on your behalf. I know people who work in the youth and community sectors and volunteer with other organisations and have had to go through vetting 4 times in one year, once for every organisation they work or volunteer with, it's always been that way.
There is talk of being in a system which would allow people to get vetted once every year or two and that vetting would move with them if they moved job, but it's nothing more than talk.

finooola

I also have a question about Garda vetting. I've just sent off an application on the new, online system. They ask you of the dates of every address you've ever lived at. I'm 36, that's a lot of addresses! And I'm not the type of person who can remember things like this, particularly accurate dates, easily. Anyway, I answered it to the best of my ability and recollection (it may be out by a year here and there, and I did not bother including weird sublets and the like that I only lived in for brief times).

Anyway, I've just realised that given the type of work I'm trying to get into, I'm going to have to be submitting these vetting applications regularly. I KNOW I should of taken a note of what I said about addresses and dates on the pending application, but I didn't. Is there any way of me seeing what I have put down? I'd like to keep it consistent if I am going to be making these applications again in the future.

Fred Swanson

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TheChizler

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I thought An Garda Siochána were exempt?

Edit: It looks like they have some exemptions. More so with FOI.

Amanda.ie

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEseSk5dzOAhVIF8AKHWmfDjIQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garda.ie%2FFAQ%2FDefault.aspx%3FFAQCategory%3D36&usg=AFQjCNEj8LUtMraG-SDi0QV7vl6o23BS1w

Section 32 of the Act states that the Minister may, after consultation with the Garda Commissioner and with the consent of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, by regulations prescribe fees.

Fred Swanson

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Amanda.ie

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Sorry I was pointing out that there is no fee, if there was it would be more transparent.

Fred Swanson

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loobylou

finooola wrote: »

I also have a question about Garda vetting. I've just sent off an application on the new, online system. They ask you of the dates of every address you've ever lived at. I'm 36, that's a lot of addresses! And I'm not the type of person who can remember things like this, particularly accurate dates, easily. Anyway, I answered it to the best of my ability and recollection (it may be out by a year here and there, and I did not bother including weird sublets and the like that I only lived in for brief times).

They also want the postcode for all addresses you have lived at. Given that postcodes have only recently been introduced here you have to go and find the "backdated" codes online.

endacl

Cavan Bear wrote: »

I think that a Police Certificate is free of charge but a fee applies for Garda Vetting which I believe is different than applying for a Police Certificate.

Nope. Not even the teeny tiniest bit correct.

GM228

In 2004 a working group on Garda vetting recommended a €20 fee per each individual vet.

It never happened but would have generated revenue of over €2,000,000 per year.

endacl

GM228 wrote: »

In 2004 a working group on Garda vetting recommended a €20 fee per each individual vet.

It never happened but would have generated revenue of over €2,000,000 per year.

If the vetting office could guarantee a five day turnaround that'd be money well spent. Is it stands, a zero fee is reasonable for what can be a 10 month wait.

Subcomandante Marcos

endacl wrote: »

If the vetting office could guarantee a five day turnaround that'd be money well spent. Is it stands, a zero fee is reasonable for what can be a 10 month wait.

In fairness to them it hasn't been anywhere near that long in a while now. It's generally only a few weeks now. But either way €2,000,000 is pittance and a stupid barrier to attracting a lot of people to give up their time to volunteer to provide services for free that the government should, generally, be paying for.

It's bad enough that the government massively underfunds services for young people, making it harder for people to provide those services for free would be punishing youth and children twice.

Owryan

I ve been vetted 3 time this year in relation to voluntary work and on the last occasion it took 3 months to come back. I ve never had a fee applied by any of the agencies in relation to the vetting either.

Regarding the eircodes, my vetting came back even though I omitted the codes for my previous addresses yet a colleague had to resubmit hers because she did the same.

Fwiw if there was a €20 charge introduced I would have to be a lot more selective about what work I do and can imagine many others would be the same.

LINE45

Can anyone tell me how I can get garda vetted? I have recently completed a degree in childcare and looking for sna positions, I am not garda vetted and I find I can't get a position unless I apply which the website says I can't individually apply unless taking up a position!!! But interview panels are saying the other candidates are vetted!!! Can anyone tell me how to overcome this problem.

bisset

To the best of my knowledge vetting is not transferable.

E.g. Someone has a job in Child and Family Agency. They are Garda vetted after being interviewed and prior to taking up employment. 3 months after taking up employment they apply to be a scout leader. They have to apply for garda clearance again. 3 months later they apply to be a foster carer for their nephew who is in state care. They have to be Garda vetted again. They then apply and are appointed to a job voluntary organisation as the hours will suit them better while caring for their nephew. They have to be Garda vetted again prior to taking up employment. So one person can be Garda vetted 4 times in a 12 month period. They do not pay for any of the Garda Vetting.

Owryan

LINE45 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me how I can get garda vetted? I have recently completed a degree in childcare and looking for sna positions, I am not garda vetted and I find I can't get a position unless I apply which the website says I can't individually apply unless taking up a position!!! But interview panels are saying the other candidates are vetted!!! Can anyone tell me how to overcome this problem.

More than likely they were vetted for a previous role. As has already been said if they take a new job then they have to go through the vetting process again. And if an organisation accepts them and doesn't vet them then it can get into a heap of trouble

Subcomandante Marcos

LINE45 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me how I can get garda vetted? I have recently completed a degree in childcare and looking for sna positions, I am not garda vetted and I find I can't get a position unless I apply which the website says I can't individually apply unless taking up a position!!! But interview panels are saying the other candidates are vetted!!! Can anyone tell me how to overcome this problem.

The interview panels are talking through their bums.

Individuals cannot get Garda vetting, an employer or organisation can get an employee or volunteer vetted. Even if other interviewees were previously vetted they'd still have to be vetted again when taking up a position in a new company so their previous vetting is irrelevant. It's not transferable.

Owryan

LINE45 wrote: »

Thanks for reply, however when I was interviewed I did inform them that I had been vetted through the university where I did my degree. The interviewers came across that these other candidates were garda vetted and if they gave me position they would have to wait for vetting to come through where the others could commence. Also wondering what is the position of relief sna in schools if an sna is sick for a day what happens then!!!

Talking through their a**e. They will have to vet anyone they hire. Let them hire someone and start working without having the vetting in place, then ring the relevant authorities and see what happens.

A child care centre in Kilkenny were reported last year to TUSLA for just this reason.

Owryan

It would not be unusual to use this as a means of "selecting" their preferred candidate regardless of the other applicants abilities.

Unfortunately because a lot of workers who require vetting are unsure how the process works it is often used unscrupulously, as in expecting people to pay for the vetting.

Moonbeam

I had to get Garda vetted twice since the new system came in and there is definitely no charge and it is per individual employer.
An exception is as a childminder you apply through Barnardo's for your vetting but again that only covers you for childminding in your house .
One year I had to get over 10 done ,I photocopy them then copy them

Galadriel

Moonbeam wrote: »

I had to get Garda vetted twice since the new system came in and there is definitely no charge and it is per individual employer.
An exception is as a childminder you apply through Barnardo's for your vetting but again that only covers you for childminding in your house .
One year I had to get over 10 done ,I photocopy them then copy them

How long did it take under the new system to get cleared? cheers.

LINE45

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