Aluclad-Rotting Windows

Cookiepus

Hello
we are pricing windows for our new build right now.
ive been told by two window suppliers this week
(one of whom actually sells aluclad)
That aluclad is a terrible idea:
-will only last 10 years or so
-water leaks in & the wood inside rotts
- They are not designed for the wet Irish climate

Anyone out there have expericence of this?
Thanks
Cookie

Calahonda52

Not here by in Washington state in the US which is wet, if not wetter than here, also humid.

Cookiepus

Thanks Calahonda.
But i dont think the US windows would be the same as what i could end up with.
Ive been told the problem is the Aluclad is manufatured in scandinavia.
Cookie

YoungAndBroke

Sounds like BS to me, the main reason I say that is the point about water leaking in. There is no water tight seal between the external aluminium layer and the timber. None of the alu-clad windows I looked at (>5) actually try to keep water out. They all allow water to flow between the wood and aluminium layers. They all allow water to flow out from the bottom of the window. It is critical that the water has somewhere to flow

I spent a lot of time researching windows for our new build and we went with alu-clad, aluminium on the outside and wood on the inside. Same as everything, there are advantages/disadvantages with all systems. Wood needs maintenance, PVC does not have the longevity of others, alu-clad more expensive. Does your supplier say which of these would be suitable for the Irish climate?

If the internal finish of the window was not a major factor, you could look at thermally broken aluminium or a few providers supply an alu-clad PVC, aluminium on the outside and pvc on the inside. One serious Austrian manufacturer supplies these into the Irish market, I can PM you the contact if you want

Cookiepus

Thanks for that
The internal finish is the number 1 factor
we really like the slime-line natural wood on the inside of the Aluclad
we'ell be inside looking out!
Are you happy with your Aluclad?
how long have you had them?

YoungAndBroke

Haven't got them yet, only placed the order 3 weeks ago :-) We talked to a lot of people who had them for months before hand and went to visit a good few houses to see them. They are a nice job. You should get a few references and check them out, it's the only way you'll be happy. Some providers offer very long guarantees on the wood if that is a concern. I can think of one Norwegian company's guarantee in particular

Cookiepus

you mean [snip/edit...a Norwegian company]?
30 years!

Cookiepus

Jeeez
How do they do that {snip} thing!

DOCARCH

Cookiepus wrote: »

Jeeez
How do they do that {snip} thing!

Magic...

fatty pang

Cookiepus wrote: »

Hello
ive been told by two window suppliers this week
(one of whom actually sells aluclad) :eek:

You really couldn't make it up.

Cookiepus wrote: »

Ive been told the problem is the Aluclad is manufatured in scandinavia.

Scandinavia covers 4 countries and not only do they have slightly different designs in each country, other countries (Baltics, Poland & UK in particular) also make ‘Scandinavian’ style windows. Additionally – most ‘Danish’ timber and composite windows are actually made in Poland.

'Wood windows: Designing for high performance'
It costs about £40 - a fraction of the price some of these clowns will charge you for windows - and will explain what to look for when buying/specifying timber windows
http://bookshop.trada.co.uk/bookshop

Good luck.

ht9zni1gs28crp

I know who that supplier potentially is, the vitriol abuse I got when I notified I was going with a competitor was shocking!

davinlarkin

Cookiepus wrote: »

Hello
we are pricing windows for our new build right now.
ive been told by two window suppliers this week
(one of whom actually sells aluclad)
That aluclad is a terrible idea:
-will only last 10 years or so
-water leaks in & the wood inside rotts
- They are not designed for the wet Irish climate

Anyone out there have expericence of this?
Thanks
Cookie

Depends how the timber is treated. Only reason for external clad should be for reduced maintenance . You should not rely on the clad to stop water getting in. The window should be designed in a manor that water projects away from the timber (externally glazed, slope beads, sloped bottom rail). Sound like you where spun garbage by a rep looking to close an easy PVC sale.
Always ask to speak to technical department. They generally will give you correct information relative to their product as have no financial interest in your given project.

ht9zni1gs28crp

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davinlarkin

Ansley Fit Walkway wrote: »

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Sounds like factual information ( based on professional experience and independant studies). Which you should try to adhere to yourself judging by most of your comments .... 👌😉

ht9zni1gs28crp

davinlarkin wrote: »

Sounds like factual information ( based on professional experience and independant studies). Which you should try to adhere to yourself judging by most of your comments .... 👌😉

What the hell are you on about? You really are barking up the wrong tree and making yourself look incredibly sillier than you already are.

From all your posts here on boards.ie its pretty apparent which company you are affiliated to.

Given the way you dealt with me Its of no surprise your attitude is like this.

davinlarkin

Ansley Fit Walkway wrote: »

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I dont bark up trees. I can safely say i never dealt with you , amen. I have worked for numerous window suppliers. Its irrelevant who i work for. Its factual information and experience that i base my opinions on regardless of the topic.

BryanF

Cut out the bickering.
Use the report function and inform mods, if you have a problem with a post.
Thanks